Mike Trout to the Orioles?

[Pickles]

Just now, Can_of_corn said:

Right, you can trade for Trout without giving up any of your top 4 prospects.

I could do it without trading 2/3 of my starting outfield, which combined make about 1/10th of Trout and have outwared him almost 2:1 combined over the last three season.

I wouldn't trade Mullins and Hays straight up for Trout.

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, Pickles said:

I could do it without trading 2/3 of my starting outfield, which combined make about 1/10th of Trout and have outwared him almost 2:1 combined over the last three season.

I wouldn't trade Mullins and Hays straight up for Trout.

Right, because a team in a rebuild, which is what the Angels are going to be if they trade Trout, wants players like Hays and Mullins.

[Pickles]

2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Right, because a team in a rebuild, which is what the Angels are going to be if they trade Trout, wants players like Hays and Mullins.

Uh, you realize we just executed a rebuild in which Hays and Mullins played huge roles.

26 and 27 year old outfielders, with several years of team control, and only now even entering arbitration, who combined for 5.5 WAR this year so far, and almost 9 WAR last year, are pretty valuable commodities.

[Hallas]

2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Right, because a team in a rebuild, which is what the Angels are going to be if they trade Trout, wants players like Hays and Mullins.

If they don't value him then we look to trade him elsewhere to a team that will value them.  Or at least one of the two.

Hall instantly becomes the Angels best prospect, and Westburg/Mayo are in their top 5.  That's a really strong prospect package even without the major league pieces for a 31 year old with about a million years and 400 million left on his contract, even if it is a future hall of famer.

 

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, Pickles said:

Uh, you realize we just executed a rebuild in which Hays and Mullins played huge roles.

26 and 27 year old outfielders, with several years of team control, and only now even entering arbitration, who combined for 5.5 WAR this year so far, and almost 9 WAR last year, are pretty valuable commodities.

Not so much for team in year 0 of a rebuild.

Would you have wanted players like that as the return on any of the trades the Orioles made in 2018?

 

And yes you can trade for them and flip them, but why do that when you can just trade for younger players with full service clocks in front of them?

[Bemorewins]

Free Mike Trout from the Angels huh? Why are the O’s the team that has to then be bound??

That’s a big NO THANKS for me!!! 
 

Superstar past his prime (or right at the edge of the end), seriously injury prone w a recently diagnosed degenerative condition on a large term contract which is sure to take him deep into unproductive years.

Why would the Orioles sign up for that? 
 

So you mean to tell me that we are supposed to give up a massive hall to bail out the Angels from their mistake? AND he doesn’t even contribute at a position of need (STARTING PITCHING)! 
 

Put it this way if you add Trout to our current team (in place of Mullins) and with our same starting pitching and worn down bullpen are we at all close to beating the Astros, Dodgers, Mets, or for that matter the Yankees? 
 

And besides I didn’t like how he looked back when we played them in June (when they came here). I said to myself “what has happened to Mike Trout?” He appeared to have a really big hole at the top of the zone where almost ever single one of our pitchers was challenging him upstairs and he couldn’t catch up. Plus we ran on him all series long where I was wondering “is there something wrong with his arm” too?

Those were big red flags of a player on the decline to me. So that would be a a really BIG pass for me. 
 

There are MUCH better ways to spend our money to compete for championships.

[Can_of_corn]

3 minutes ago, Hallas said:

If they don't value him then we look to trade him elsewhere to a team that will value them.  Or at least one of the two.

Hall instantly becomes the Angels best prospect, and Westburg/Mayo are in their top 5.  That's a really strong prospect package even without the major league pieces for a 31 year old with about a million years and 400 million left on his contract, even if it is a future hall of famer.

 

Hall being their best prospect says a lot more about the state of their farm system than the merits of Hall as a player.  (I'm a Hall fan).

You don't trade Trout for a deal that is headlined by a guy with significant reliever risk.

[Ripken]

We all love Trout.  If he were a FA, and with the back issue, I wouldn't sign him for what's left on his contract.  So, we're supposed to pay that and give up a chunk of the farm?  Not for me.  The first line says we're targeting a shortstop, which I very seriously doubt, so there's not much value in the article anyway.

[DrinkinWithFermi]

If they'd do it for, like, Stowers, Westburg, Hall, and a couple of Domincan teenager lottery tickets, while also eating like $10 million per year on his remaining deal, hell freaking yeah I would do it, even with his injury issues. The guy is one of the greatest to ever play the game and would legitimately put butts in seats.

But...they wouldn't, so it's a moot point.

That said, as someone who acquired him on an O's franchise on last year's MLB The Show, I can attest that Mike Trout does indeed look &$#@ing GREAT in orange and black.

[Pickles]

2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Not so much for team in year 0 of a rebuild.

Would you have wanted players like that as the return on any of the trades the Orioles made in 2018?

 

And yes you can trade for them and flip them, but why do that when you can just trade for younger players with full service clocks in front of them?

I would have been thrilled to add the 2022 versions of Mullins and Hays to the 2018 team.  We would have been way ahead on our rebuild and here we are, in full contention, and they'd just be hitting their 30s.

Sure, it might not be ideal, but I'd rather have two young established major leaguers with solid track records than some lottery tickets.

Again, it's very, very possible those two are more valuable than Trout going forward, and they'll cost about 1/10th as much.

Trout isn't worth the two of them together.  Right now.  It would be a bad trade for the Orioles.

[Bemorewins]

1 minute ago, Ripken said:

We all love Trout.  If he were a FA, and with the back issue, I wouldn't sign him for what's left on his contract.  So, we're supposed to pay that and give up a chunk of the farm?  Not for me.  The first line says we're targeting a shortstop, which I very seriously doubt, so there's not much value in the article anyway.

Agree totally! The primary FA resources should be used to acquire starting pitching better than the 5 and dive guys we currently have.

[Roll Tide]

30 minutes ago, Gurgi said:

Honestly Trout probably breaks down in a couple of years and leaves whoever has his contract holding poison.   

Yep…not interested. TROUT IS NOW DAMAGED GOODS.

[Hallas]

9 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Hall being their best prospect says a lot more about the state of their farm system than the merits of Hall as a player.  (I'm a Hall fan).

You don't trade Trout for a deal that is headlined by a guy with significant reliever risk.

Hall would be the best prospect for 12 teams by Fangraphs FV, and top-2/possibly tied for 1 in 19 teams.  The risk profile is understandable, but you can swap him for a player like Cowser and it'd probably be similar value.

 

If the Angels laugh that prospect package out of the room for Trout then they just aren't serious about trading him.  While another team might be able to edge that package out, there isn't a single team out there that can knock that package out of the water.

Edited August 25, 2022 by Hallas

[Roll Tide]

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It’s a positive turn of events for Trout, who dealt with a whirlwind this past Wednesday, when head athletic trainer Mike Frostad said it’s an injury Trout might have to monitor throughout his career. Trout said the injury, which is a costovertebral dysfunction at T5 in his back, has essentially healed, as he no longer feels discomfort. Trout, speaking before Sunday’s series finale against the Rangers, said there’s no timetable for his return, but that he’s confident he’ll play again this season.

I’m not giving much for him. 

 

https://www.mlb.com/news/mike-trout-meets-with-spine-specialist-back-injury

[Can_of_corn]

For the record I'm not advocating trading for Trout and don't think the O's are even considering it.

But the type of package being bantered about is not, IMO, the type of package that the Angels would be coveting.