Orioles acquire Ryan O’Hearn

[owknows]

12 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

The money is peanuts to me. 

Would you mind grabbing my bar tab?

Thanks.

[eddie83]

6 minutes ago, owknows said:

Would you mind grabbing my bar tab?

Thanks.

What can you buy in baseball for an extra $700k? Another player people would complain about? 

[Frobby]

23 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

It may not be crystal clear but it’s pretty clear to me.  The Orioles acquired him and his 1.4M contract. Nowhere did it mention any cash coming back from KC.

I agree it’s not mentioned.   There were “cash considerations” given and we don’t know what that means.  Normally it would mean some token payment by the Orioles to the Royals to induce them to trade him rather than be waived for nothing.  It’s pure speculation on my part that in this context it may involve the O’s picking up some, but not all, of the contract.  I definitely don’t know that it’s true.  But the whole deal would make more sense to me if that were true.  We’ll see if any further information emerges, but I doubt it will, one way or the other.  

[Can_of_corn]

3 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

What can you buy in baseball for an extra $700k? Another player people would complain about? 

A fan favorite announcer.

[Frobby]

23 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

The problem is that it probably means they are giving him at bats, which are likely to be at the expense of Stowers.

I don’t mind the pick up and the shot at him except for this is all they are doing..taking shots at bad players.

I don’t get why they just won’t acquire good players coming off such a promising season.

Just an awful offseason so far and it’s not likely to get better.

The issue of whether he makes the OD roster and takes at bats away from Stowers and others is a whole other separate can of worms.  I’ll worry about that if and when it happens.  

[owknows]

5 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

What can you buy in baseball for an extra $700k? Another player people would complain about? 

My bar tab

[RZNJ]

19 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I agree it’s not mentioned.   There were “cash considerations” given and we don’t know what that means.  Normally it would mean some token payment by the Orioles to the Royals to induce them to trade him rather than be waived for nothing.  It’s pure speculation on my part that in this context it may involve the O’s picking up some, but not all, of the contract.  I definitely don’t know that it’s true.  But the whole deal would make more sense to me if that were true.  We’ll see if any further information emerges, but I doubt it will, one way or the other.  

As I stated previously, they must have felt other teams would claim him and his 1.4M salary. As an inducement the Orioles may have offered KC cash, with the amount depending on O’Hearn making the 26 man roster and/or how many days he spends on the 26 man.  I’m sure it’s not much.

Same reason Atlanta gave cash considerations for Lewin Diaz and I bet they owe us nothing or something like 25-50k now that they cut him.

[RZNJ]

22 minutes ago, owknows said:

My bar tab

The first step is admitting you have a problem.   Unless you don’t drink and buy the house every round.  In that case you’re a great guy.

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, RZNJ said:

The first step is admitting you have a problem.  

 

[Moose Milligan]

36 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

 

 

For an 83 win team the 2022 club gave out a good many at bats to below average players. I don’t see that this year. I’m fine risking $12M to give you better options. I’m not saying it makes it ok what they have done with the starting pitching. 

O’Hearn is below average. Frazier is below average. McCann is below average. Practically everyone they picked up this off-season outside of Givens and maybe Gibson are below average. 
 

Do you disagree?

[RZNJ]

3 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

 

I will if you will.  Let’s do it together.

[Sports Guy]

42 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

 

They go into the season with no safety nets. Stowers and Westburg have guaranteed at bats. They traded off a Urias to free up Westburg. What happens after the first injury? Mateo goes down? Santander? One of the rookies? Who plays? Who fills in? Benboom over McCann, etc. 

 

The best thing about the position players right now is not that they are flawless, far from it. It’s the options and platoon/part time possibilities. It’s having a Westburg and Cowser in the system. I’m fine if they deal someone but if not for a starting pitcher I don’t see the rush.  
 

If O’Hearn is a bust he isn’t going to be ran out there are much as an Odor or even for that matter a Nevin. If Frazier has a blah year you have Westburg. You can keep Frazier as a depth move. 
 

For an 83 win team the 2022 club gave out a good many at bats to below average players. I don’t see that this year. I’m fine risking $12M to give you better options. I’m not saying it makes it ok what they have done with the starting pitching. 

Signing cheap, MiL FAs for AAA depth is fine.

Making them largely your only moves and give them real at bats and trying to sell us on them is entirely different.  
 

Thats what you aren’t getting.

If the Os had signed Abreu and Eovaldi and traded for one of the Marlins pitchers and were dedicated to the young players starting,  these deals would barely get mentioned and no one would care we signed them. 
 

But when it is your whole offseason, for the most part, it’s an issue.

[RZNJ]

3 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

O’Hearn is below average. Frazier is below average. McCann is below average. Practically everyone they picked up this off-season outside of Givens and maybe Gibson are below average. 
 

Do you disagree?

Present tense. I agree.

Frazier was below average last year.  Every other year of his career he’s been above average.  Agree or disagree.

[owknows]

14 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

I will if you will.  Let’s do it together.

Quietly grabs another screen shot.

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, owknows said:

Quietly grabs another screen shot.