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2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

As I said earlier, how useful is contact when the hitter is slow and hits the ball on the ground?

It was useful on Saturday when he knocked in the winning run from 3B that way.  I’d much rather have him up in a situation like that than some guy who strikes out 30% of the time.  

But generally, if his slash line stays about where it is now (.206/.289/.338), he won’t be very useful.  
 

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If you haven't noticed, and I know most of you reading this have, Colton Cowser is on a tear down in Norfolk. Since April 11th, he's slashing .408/.525/.755/1.280 with 12 BB and 13 Ks in 61 PAs. On to

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McKenna and OHearn down, Westburg and Cowser up. If Hyde can’t find the ABs for everyone, then send Hyde down and bring up Buck Britton. 

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I don't know...if they move Santander to full time DH it's going to take at bats away from McCann (30 OPS+).

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12 minutes ago, Frobby said:

It was useful on Saturday when he knocked in the winning run from 3B that way.  I’d much rather have him up in a situation like that than some guy who strikes out 30% of the time.  

But generally, if his slash line stays about where it is now (.206/.289/.338), he won’t be very useful.  
 

Yea?  In that one particular game instance it was good....

If the guy that strikes out 30% of the time can get the ball in the air than I think it's pretty even.

A strikeout only counts as one out.

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I would love to see Cowser called up and given a chance to play. But he is and will in no way be a replacement for Hays right now at the plate. Hays has been one of our best hitters in this young season along with Mateo and Adley. With Santander struggling and Gunnar still trying to figure things out, we actually need Hays in the lineup.

Cowser like almost all young players in this modern era of baseball will most likely struggle out of the gate to hit (I mean 20-30 games worth at least). While I believe that he could probably replace Varva's (non)production, I don't see it as being realistic in any way that he can give us what Hays has been giving us so far, especially right now out of the gate.

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1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

As I said earlier, how useful is contact when the hitter is slow and hits the ball on the ground?

Must be some value.  This is a smart front office. The idea that they would spend $8mm on a player that wasn’t necessary seems unlikely. 

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Must be some value.  This is a smart front office. The idea that they would spend $8mm on a player that wasn’t necessary seems unlikely. 

Might have been the only move available within their budget. Who knows whether that budget was self-imposed or dictated by ownership. But either way, the budget wasn't high enough to sign a pitcher/impact bat, so they addressed the biggest position of "need" with the money they had set aside as prudent.

Which, whatever. Seemed inevitable this was going to be an issue. But Odor --> Frazier is an upgrade. And maybe they want the insurance/utility player. So fine.

But you have to go by the information we have available to us now. Frazier isn't hitting the way he usually has, and the IF prospects are hitting as well as they ever have. Frazier is a sunk cost now. The fact that you spent money on him in the past should not be taken into consideration.

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3 minutes ago, Alasdaire said:

Might have been the only move available within their budget. Who knows whether that budget was self-imposed or dictated by ownership. But either way, the budget wasn't high enough to sign a pitcher/impact bat, so they addressed the biggest position of "need" with the money they had set aside as prudent.

Which, whatever. Seemed inevitable this was going to be an issue. But Odor --> Frazier is an upgrade. And maybe they want the insurance/utility player. So fine.

But you have to go by the information we have available to us now. Frazier isn't hitting the way he usually has, and the IF prospects are hitting as well as they ever have. Frazier is a sunk cost now. The fact that you spent money on him in the past should not be taken into consideration.

2021 (SDP)- 86 OPS+

2022- 80 OPS+

2023- 76 OPS+

It isn't that surprising.

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11 minutes ago, Alasdaire said:

Might have been the only move available within their budget. Who knows whether that budget was self-imposed or dictated by ownership. But either way, the budget wasn't high enough to sign a pitcher/impact bat, so they addressed the biggest position of "need" with the money they had set aside as prudent.

Which, whatever. Seemed inevitable this was going to be an issue. But Odor --> Frazier is an upgrade. And maybe they want the insurance/utility player. So fine.

But you have to go by the information we have available to us now. Frazier isn't hitting the way he usually has, and the IF prospects are hitting as well as they ever have. Frazier is a sunk cost now. The fact that you spent money on him in the past should not be taken into consideration.

It was almost assuredly imposed by the awful ownership of the team. What GM would say, "nope, don't want any of the good players. Give me the mediocre, ones?"

With all of the infield prospects that we have at AAA AND the fact that they chose to add Frazier as a redundant player when they already were planing to keep Varva (who has a very similar skillset) says to me that there was no grand brilliant plan. It was a mistake. Which anyone can make from time to time. 

I'm just hopeful that we don't continue down this road like we did Odor all year last season.

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