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Orioles close to acquiring Corbin Burnes (Update: Acquired for Joey Ortiz and DL Hall)


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After all the frustration and disappointment over the years this really does feel like liftoff. Great Stadium, Great GM and FO, Tons of talent at all Levels. And new deep pocketed Owners. No wonder all the other Fans in the AL East are freaking out. I am going to enjoy this ride.

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7 minutes ago, interloper said:

Why does his baseball ref page say he's not a free agent until 2025 but I see elsewhere that's he's a free agent now? And isn't he missing most of the season? 

Non-tendered for 2024 due to injury.

Another MLB player who did not complete 6 years of service with his original Club despite being a 2-time All-Star.

Isn't it nifty how that 5.161 service time occurred across 7 MLB seasons?

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40 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

 

"It seems weird to call a trade a win-win when the teams are both currently competitive. Doesn’t one have to be a loser? But I think this was a perfect reallocation of resources. The Orioles were wasting potential by having so many prospects blocked by their already impressive major league team. The Brewers needed prospect quantity and quality. The Orioles added more wins in 2024 with this deal than the Brewers lost because Hall will pitch more (and more important) innings in Milwaukee than he would have in Baltimore.

That’s about as both-sides-happy as it gets in baseball."

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35 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Just extend Holliday and let’s watch him win ROY.

Burnes, Bradish, Grayson, Means, Kremer

Kimbrel, Cano, Wells, Tate, Baumann, Coloumbe, Perez, Irvin

vs RHP

1. Holliday 2B L

2. Adley C S

3. Gunnar SS L

4. Santander RF S

5. Mountcastle 1B R

6. O’Hearn DH L

7. Hays LF R

8. Mullins CF L

9. Westburg 2B R

McCann, Urias, Mateo, Hilliard

Sorry but they made the shift illegal.  You have to move someone to the left side of the infield.

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Current Orioles own 4 of the top 8 pitcher-seasons by Stuff+'s reckoning across the last 6 years.

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=y&type=36&month=0&ind=1&startdate=&enddate=&season1=2018&season=2023&sortcol=13&sortdir=default&pagenum=1

NFBC players as a group regard the Orioles as holding momentarily the 2024 AL's 2nd, 10th and 13th best SP.

Gerrit-Burnes-Gausman-Castillo-Kirby

Pablo-Skubal-Framber-Gilbert-Grayson

Eflin-Ryan-Bradish-Cease-Ragans

That's essentially three #1 starters in a 15-team league if you are a stickler every team must have one.

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33 minutes ago, Malike said:

Keygans talked about a reunion with an old friend in this thread, maybe that's who they were talking about.

Tanner Scott?   He would be another one year rental but the 2023 Scott was probably a best case scenario for D.L. Hall this year.

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