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Baseball America mock draft just out.  4.0

Honeycutt, Moore, and Benge all off the board.   They have Theo Gillen going to the O s and Brecht falling to the Phil's at 27.   They guess Kaelen Culpepper SS, Kansas State to us at #32.

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1 hour ago, RZNJ said:

Baseball America mock draft just out.  4.0

Honeycutt, Moore, and Benge all off the board.   They have Theo Gillen going to the O s and Brecht falling to the Phil's at 27.   They guess Kaelen Culpepper SS, Kansas State to us at #32.

Feel like a lot of mocks have connected us to Gillen lately. Which probably means we don’t take him. I’ll still be surprised if we take a first round hs prospect, but that’s where the upside is in this part of the round. Love his offensive profile, but not the 2b or lf limitation. But I expect that’s why he might be there at 22

 

culpepper would be fine. He should stick at ss and is a well rounded player. Doesn’t really have a carrying tool, so hopefully we could develop something and have him get more out of a tool than expected (like norby’s power or Ortiz’s bat). He wouldn’t exactly thrill me though. 
 

edit: I’m warming to the idea of space Caldwell if he is there at 32 if it’s not one of the hs ss’s. But again, probably wishful thinking. College bats or arms the most likely picks. 

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9 hours ago, Jim'sKid26 said:

I'm getting a Connor Norby feel. A bat stashed at 2B that has an average or worse glove. Does he end up on the dirt or is he a LF? Dude can hit though...

Norby was cleaner at 2B, but Moore has better athleticism. Moore would need a lot of work to stay on the dirt. I would think they want to move him quickly, whichever team takes him. 

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11 hours ago, RZNJ said:

I have not watched any of the tournament or watched any college ball during the season.  I’ll take a look at some Honeycutt and Moore video though.   I’m sure teams put stock in the tournament performance but I suspect the good ones don’t let it sway them too much.   Just like Denny Doyle one hit .400 in the WS and Rick Dempsey was our best hitter in 83, it’s best not to put too much weight on it.

For me, it’s not about Moore’s tournament performance as much as his apparent ability to square the ball up and use the entire field. Legit power and hit tool. 

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ESPN KIley put a 2-round mock update out this morning - he has Brody Brecht going to NYM at #19, depriving Elias of the gamble of putting him in the bullpen this fall.    His Orioles guesses are, shocker, 3 college bats:

22. Baltimore Orioles

Kaelen Culpepper, SS, Kansas State

This is probably the floor for Benge, Waldschmidt and Cam Smith and is one of the first serious spots for Culpepper, Amick, Lewis or Honeycutt. Lindsey is an under-the-radar name, and keep an eye on Zack Stewart as a later option for Baltimore.

32. Baltimore Orioles: Billy Amick, 3B, Tennessee

61. Baltimore Orioles: Zack Stewart, RF, Missouri State

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2 hours ago, Just Regular said:

ESPN KIley put a 2-round mock update out this morning - he has Brody Brecht going to NYM at #19, depriving Elias of the gamble of putting him in the bullpen this fall.    His Orioles guesses are, shocker, 3 college bats:

22. Baltimore Orioles

Kaelen Culpepper, SS, Kansas State

This is probably the floor for Benge, Waldschmidt and Cam Smith and is one of the first serious spots for Culpepper, Amick, Lewis or Honeycutt. Lindsey is an under-the-radar name, and keep an eye on Zack Stewart as a later option for Baltimore.

32. Baltimore Orioles: Billy Amick, 3B, Tennessee

61. Baltimore Orioles: Zack Stewart, RF, Missouri State

That would be kind of a boring,  not necessarily bad, draft.  He did at least mention Tyson Lewis and Kellon Lindsey, two HS, as potential picks at #22.   As usual,  these guys have no idea who the Orioles are hoping for at any of these spots.  I predict one of the first two picks will be a HS position player and one of the first 3 picks will be a pitcher.

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On 6/17/2024 at 5:46 PM, RZNJ said:

Baseball America mock draft just out.  4.0

Honeycutt, Moore, and Benge all off the board.   They have Theo Gillen going to the O s and Brecht falling to the Phil's at 27.   They guess Kaelen Culpepper SS, Kansas State to us at #32.

Gillen is a big dude.  6'3'' and muscular.  I wouldn't be too upset with this pick.  

Theo Gillen Class of 2024 - Player Profile | Perfect Game USA

 

 

 

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I would be a bit disappointed with culpepper. Amick feels like the max wagner pick, which hasn’t paid off but doesn’t necessarily make it a bad pick. Idk anything about Stewart. 
 

like rznj, a hs ss is a lot more appealing at 22. But still think it may be u likely given we haven’t seen hs hitters other than Jackson and Gunnar early. 
 

interesting that it lists us being one of the first realistic spots for Honeycutt, where I have seen most mocks have him gone before us. it also lists us as a floor for waldschmidt where I see him going after us in most mocks. We are 100% the floor for Benge or smith. I haven’t seen smith lasting past 16 in any mocks in months. 

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On 6/19/2024 at 10:20 AM, RZNJ said:

That would be kind of a boring,  not necessarily bad, draft.  He did at least mention Tyson Lewis and Kellon Lindsey, two HS, as potential picks at #22.   As usual,  these guys have no idea who the Orioles are hoping for at any of these spots.  I predict one of the first two picks will be a HS position player and one of the first 3 picks will be a pitcher.

Callis has Brecht going 22 to the o’s, with Gillen still on the board in yesterday's new mock. 

I’m still very hesitant given the lack of command, but only being a full time pitcher for a year and a half does lend itself to believing he can improve more than your average college pitcher. I also still won’t believe the o’s take a pitcher in the first round until I see it. 

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2 hours ago, OsFanInOhio said:

Callis has Brecht going 22 to the o’s, with Gillen still on the board in yesterday's new mock. 

I’m still very hesitant given the lack of command, but only being a full time pitcher for a year and a half does lend itself to believing he can improve more than your average college pitcher. I also still won’t believe the o’s take a pitcher in the first round until I see it. 

Bradfield wasn’t really their type but, IMO, they took best talent on the board.  I think of Brecht the same way.  It might be tough not to take him if he’s there.  I don’t think he will be there.

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On 6/19/2024 at 11:04 AM, emmett16 said:

Gillen is a big dude.  6'3'' and muscular.  I wouldn't be too upset with this pick.  

Theo Gillen Class of 2024 - Player Profile | Perfect Game USA

 

 

 

Does he stay at SS at the next level? Apparently has the arm for the Left side of the diamond. Does he have the movement skills to stay at SS or is he 2B/3B transition? Did not see much written about his hands. Calling card appears to be a LH power bat. Feels like an interesting underslot candidate if the FO likes his skill set.

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14 hours ago, OsFanInOhio said:

Callis has Brecht going 22 to the o’s, with Gillen still on the board in yesterday's new mock. 

I’m still very hesitant given the lack of command, but only being a full time pitcher for a year and a half does lend itself to believing he can improve more than your average college pitcher. I also still won’t believe the o’s take a pitcher in the first round until I see it. 

6' 4" 235 former Iowa wide receiver with a 4SFB that touches 101 mph and a 70 grade SL. Ceiling is very high. Floor, if he stays healthy, is a backend BP guy who can close. There is not a lot of wear and tear on the arm. If he can refine the CU/Splitter for LH hitters he's a beast. 

As many on here know, I am not a fan of taking a pitcher, especially a college pitcher, in the first round. Too much risk for me at that price point/bonus slot. However, if Brecht falls to #22, you have to be tempted.

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32 minutes ago, Jim'sKid26 said:

Does he stay at SS at the next level? Apparently has the arm for the Left side of the diamond. Does he have the movement skills to stay at SS or is he 2B/3B transition? Did not see much written about his hands. Calling card appears to be a LH power bat. Feels like an interesting underslot candidate if the FO likes his skill set.

The arm looked ok.  He had shoulder surgery 2 years ago so there were some questions.  Can’t tell too much from that video.  My amateur opinion is that he might stick at SS but is more likely to move.  He supposedly has plus speed and CF has been mentioned along with 2B.  I think you’re drafting the power/speed combo athlete and just hoping the bat develops into something plus.   Kind of a LH version of Mac Horvath with a higher hit ceiling.

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12 hours ago, RZNJ said:

Bradfield wasn’t really their type but, IMO, they took best talent on the board.  I think of Brecht the same way.  It might be tough not to take him if he’s there.  I don’t think he will be there.

Wasn't their type? Athletic college position player is exactly their type. I also remember Elias saying they had him in their top 10 and were surprised/happy he fell to 17.

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