The 2024 Trade Deadline

[Sports Guy]

2 minutes ago, LGOrioles said:

I’m not a huge Tate guy but he has a 3.64 ERA since 2020. This year he has a 3.62 ERA, 3.65 xERA, and 3.99 SIERA. His track record has been pretty good and I think he’s perfectly fine as one of the first 2 options out of the pen right now. 

And that’s largely boosted by 2022, a year he has never really come close to.

[Sports Guy]

1 minute ago, Aristotelian said:

Tate has been fine and I think Hendricks would be fine but not much better than what we have. 

Right he has been fine. If we didn’t have him, we wouldn’t tell the difference, just like 2023. 
 

He’s nothing special. A mid 3s ERA reliever in this era isn’t that big of a deal. 

[LGOrioles]

26 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

And that’s largely boosted by 2022, a year he has never really come close to.

It also includes a 4.39 ERA in 2021. He’s at a 3.62 ERA this year with underlying numbers pretty close to that number. I don’t think he’s great but it was more in response to his track record. I think Tate is likely to perform closer to his track record going forward than Hendricks.

[Tryptamine]

2 hours ago, Sports Guy said:

Mark Leiter Jr is an under the radar reliever. Maybe he is a third guy you add.

A few things. He's on the IL right now, but yes he has one of the most dominant pitches in baseball. Like literally in the top 5 to 10. The issue is that he got hard abused in 2023. He was also getting hard abused early this year and that led to his falling apart over the last few weeks before he was sent to the IL.  He walks a few too many, but he does get a ton of swing and miss. I suspect that when he comes back from the IL, if he has a few clean appearances, he'll likely be dangled, but given that he has 3 years of control he'll probably take a fairly decent package to land. 

[bpilktree]

2 hours ago, Sports Guy said:

Except Hendricks has a career and track record of being good.

This isn’t 2019.  He has an ERA close to 5 the last 4 years.  They moved him out of rotation because he was so bad earlier in the year and probably was very close to being DFA.  So not someone I have any confidence in.  Trading for him would make the Jack Flaherty trade look like we got Cy young.  

[toughbuff1]

Do you think Skubal would be available for a package like Basallo, Kjerstad, Norby and Bradfield? Seems like it would take a huge package to pro him from Detroit, but we'd still have Mayo, Holliday, Fabian, Stowers, Beavers etc in the system. 

[Sports Guy]

7 minutes ago, toughbuff1 said:

Do you think Skubal would be available for a package like Basallo, Kjerstad, Norby and Bradfield? Seems like it would take a huge package to pro him from Detroit, but we'd still have Mayo, Holliday, Fabian, Stowers, Beavers etc in the system. 

They take that in a heartbeat and we would be crazy to do it.

[toughbuff1]

We'd be getting one of the best pitchers in baseball, with 2 and a half years off control.  What do you think would be a good offer that Detroit would actually accept?

[gtman55]

I don't know what it will take but we need a high leverage reliever and a #3 starter. I mean I'm sorry but Cano isn't a high leverage guy and Hyde keeps sending him out in high leverage situations. And I guess Kremer is our #3 guy when he come back but if we want to go deep into the playoffs we need someone better IMO.

[Greg Pappas]

31 minutes ago, toughbuff1 said:

Do you think Skubal would be available for a package like Basallo, Kjerstad, Norby and Bradfield? Seems like it would take a huge package to pro him from Detroit, but we'd still have Mayo, Holliday, Fabian, Stowers, Beavers etc in the system. 

As SG said, it's highly likely (if not a sure thing) that Detroit would agree to that trade... but we would never offer that.  Take Basallo out and that package is closer to what I'd deem fair return for Skubal for 2.5 years of control, but still might not be enough.  The issue is, as you said, prying Skubal away.  Would Elias deal one of his incredible top three prospects to get Skubal?  I have major doubts.  I guess what I'm really saying is the odds of Skubal to Baltimore appear remote.

Edited Thursday at 17:51 by Greg Pappas

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

33 minutes ago, toughbuff1 said:

Do you think Skubal would be available for a package like Basallo, Kjerstad, Norby and Bradfield? Seems like it would take a huge package to pro him from Detroit, but we'd still have Mayo, Holliday, Fabian, Stowers, Beavers etc in the system. 

I'll kidnap Elias if he tries to make that trade. I like Skubal, but not at that price when he's pitched over 117 innings exactly one time (149 total) during his career. 

[Rbiggs2525]

This weekend could be a win/win. Toronto wins and Yankees lose. Yankees win and Toronto is becoming closer to sellers.

[Greg Pappas]

Cal Quantrill, for me, may be the most likely target.  The 29-year-old has 1.5 seasons of control, and while he may not be the ToR stud we want, he would be a nice addition to the rotation.

[Too Tall]

2 minutes ago, Rbiggs2525 said:

This weekend could be a win/win. Toronto wins and Yankees lose. Yankees win and Toronto is becoming closer to sellers.

I'm rooting for Toronto!!!! Yankees winning does absolutely nothing for me! Plus, IF Toronto ever sells, no guarantee they sell our way. Go Jays!!! Keep them spoiled brats crying!!!!!

[Sports Guy]

Skubal is a stud that will require a package similar to what was posted.

My issue with Skubal is the injury history and the lack of innings. 
 

OTOH, he’s a stud and a lefty. If we didn’t have to give up any of the big 3 prospects and obviously not trading any of the main young guys on the ML roster, I would trade whatever it took to get him.