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4 minutes ago, interloper said:

Has there been any firm indication that Skubal is officially off the market at this point? I'm kind of assuming he is, but don't believe I've seen anything. 

Live look in at Mike Elias and Scott Fisher.      Warning for swear words kids.    Sig anxiously pacing in the hallway wanting it all to be antiseptic chess.

 

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1 minute ago, 1fingerwillie said:

I think you and I have a different expectation of what this team will do when those three come to the majors. 

We just upgraded both the rotation and bullpen for 25. I expect we will add more to the rotation and bullpen this winter. 

By 26 when we could have a truly historic lineup, I think the pitching will be quite well balanced.

 

 

By 26'? That's Adley's 5th season and Gunnar's fourth. That sounds like what some are arguing against which is "going for it in one season". And if 26' doesn't work out then what?

Also, your use of the term "upgrade" is a little strong for me. IMO we improved the rotation a little. (But let's face it, we had nowhere to go but up since some of the pitchers that we were running out there aren't even Major league starters - i.e. Irving/Suarez/McDermott/Povich). And we improved the bullpen a little. 

By no means do the additions of Eflin and Dominguez solve this team's pitching problems.

I agree that Mayo, Basallo, and Holliday will improve the lineup in a few seasons, most likely in a significant way. But I just don't believe that you can out slug each opponent in the tournament. That's not usually what postseason success is built on.

I would love to hear your plan on the realistic rotation and bullpen additions that make us significantly better this winter.

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8 minutes ago, Just Regular said:

Live look in at Mike Elias and Scott Fisher.      Warning for swear words kids.    Sig anxiously pacing in the hallway wanting it all to be antiseptic chess.

 

Lol, Rounders references are the best.

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Just now, sportsfan8703 said:

Did the Giants trade Soler to open up the DH spot for Mountcastle?  Mountcastle for Snell?  We trade our cleanup hitter for an Ace. 

If nothing else, you are relentless.

You would probably need to add more to that trade as Mountcastle probably doesn't have that kind of value.

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Just now, Bemorewins said:

If nothing else, you are relentless.

You would probably need to add more to that trade as Mountcastle probably doesn't have that kind of value.

Also, Snell is reportedly off the market. Whether or not you believe that is up to the individual. But in my experience, when someone reports a player is off the market this close to the deadline, it's usually true, and it means that GMs have been notified to stop sending offers. 

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2 minutes ago, Bemorewins said:

If nothing else, you are relentless.

You would probably need to add more to that trade as Mountcastle probably doesn't have that kind of value.

Who died and made you judge of all internet trade talk?

Can you please provide me with the talking points you want us all to agree on?  Make it easy on me. I don’t feel like reading back. Might miss some news. 

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Just now, Bemorewins said:

If nothing else, you are relentless.

You would probably need to add more to that trade as Mountcastle probably doesn't have that kind of value.

Mountcastle and Irvin (to backfill Snell's rotation spot in SF and open a spot on our staff), plus a decent prospect like Beavers. Maybe a young pitcher they like too.

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1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

29 games in the cleanup slot this season.

Yeah but the Giants probably don’t know that. We can trick them. 
 

In all seriousness, I wonder what it would take to acquire Snell. I have a feeling it’s a lot more than most would be willing to pay. 

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1 minute ago, DrinkinWithFermi said:

Mountcastle and Irvin (to backfill Snell's rotation spot in SF and open a spot on our staff), plus a decent prospect like Beavers. Maybe a young pitcher they like too.

Mountcastle and Mullins brother. I’d do that. 

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Just now, DrinkinWithFermi said:

Mountcastle and Irvin (to backfill Snell's rotation spot in SF and open a spot on our staff), plus a decent prospect like Beavers. Maybe a young pitcher they like too.

Who in the world wants Irvin starting games for them that they are actually trying to win? lol

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1 minute ago, waroriole said:

Yeah but the Giants probably don’t know that. We can trick them. 
 

In all seriousness, I wonder what it would take to acquire Snell. I have a feeling it’s a lot more than most would be willing to pay. 

I don't think they are looking to trade him, which is going to dramatically change the price.

My father used to buy and sell cars, he would say he had three prices.  I need it gone, I don't care either way and I want to keep it.

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