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1 minute ago, Bemorewins said:

All the other team's are idiots and willing to "overpay". But we are smart and content to stay the same.

Everything has a price.  In my view guys like Holliday, Mayo, and Basallo extend our competitive window.  Trading them shrinks the window.  I would have given one of them up for Skubal or Crochet, but not two. 

In baseball I believe that more bites at the apple, given the random nature of the playoffs, is more valuable than trying to take a big bite.

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1 minute ago, interloper said:

Weren't you just complaining that we overpaid for Rogers?

Let me be as clear as I can be, I don't care that we gave up Norby and Stowers. I care about who we gave them up for (a 5th starter).

We need difference makers not decent players who upgrade the margins of the roster.

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Other teams seem like they are making moves to improve their teams for a strong playoff run. Mike Elias and the Orioles look like they want to tread water this year. Elias certainly isn't making the type of moves that inspire confidence in playoff success.

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2 minutes ago, EddeeEddee said:

Maybe, but I think is clearer is that pitching costs a lot more than it used to because more teams can get into the playoffs.  More demand than supply than even a year or two ago.

Didn't Elias have time to learn and assess the market last deadline. If he is shocked by the sticker price this year, there is something wrong.

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3 minutes ago, terpoh said:

We have completely overhauled our rotation, and moved Suarez to the pen. We added Seranthony Dominguez who has better stuff than most of our pen. And there are still 2 hours before the deadline. How did we stay the same?

Are we discernibly better for October? 

Yes Eflin is better by far than anything that we had. But what else. The Phillies couldn't wait to offload Dominguez. Now are we going to believe that we are a better team that they are or have a bullpen anywhere close to as good with the likes of Dominguez, Kimbrel, and Cano?

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1 minute ago, Bemorewins said:

Let me be as clear as I can be, I don't care that we gave up Norby and Stowers. I care about who we gave them up for (a 5th starter).

We need difference makers not decent players who upgrade the margins of the roster.

I understand wanting a better pitcher. However, I think there is close to a 100% chance that neither Skubal nor Snell will be traded, so that removes two of the best pitchers we were looking at. 

The next best option is Flaherty. Then Kikuchi who was a massive overpay. 

So I think Elias took the best deal he probably could find with the available pitchers. 

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2 minutes ago, cnmilton said:

Other teams seem like they are making moves to improve their teams for a strong playoff run. Mike Elias and the Orioles look like they want to tread water this year. Elias certainly isn't making the type of moves that inspire confidence in playoff success.

You can't just forget about the Burnes trade.

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2 minutes ago, Bemorewins said:

Didn't Elias have time to learn and assess the market last deadline. If he is shocked by the sticker price this year, there is something wrong.

He’s not shocked by the price, just not willing to pay it. And rightfully so, IMO

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