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31 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Once again, the dude is a DH.  Are you telling me he's not trying as hard as he can every at bat because his team sucks?

I don't want that guy on my team.

 

Changes of scenery are a thing. Also, he's not playing every day here which helps. Also, he was injured for them most of this year.

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30 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Once again, the dude is a DH.  Are you telling me he's not trying as hard as he can every at bat because his team sucks?

I don't want that guy on my team.

 

You can try as hard as want, when you dont have traffic on in front of, or relevant batters behind you it adds up. Maybe you dont know who he is, opposing pitchers do. Plus they have they have exit velo with guy ( but very high GB rate), the O's are going to work on launch angle with him. Maybe they'll have more success than CWS.

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16 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I think I am looking at the context.

I think you folks are trying to invent a narrative.

His JOB is to bat 3-5 times a game.

That's it.

There is no excuse to not put forth full effort.

I can see a pitcher or fielder losing concentration but a DH? 

His biggest issue, besides health, has been launch angle.  Was he too down to elevate the ball?

 

Ahh, I think the current I’s regime is very good at helping hitters by introducing small tweaks and providing really good info.  They have turned around guys like O’Hearn and  Hicks, not to mention all of the hitters they have developed in the system.  I doubt that the White Sox are good at those things.

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4 minutes ago, interloper said:

Changes of scenery are a thing. Also, he's not playing every day here which helps. Also, he was injured for them most of this year.

I think there are 10’s of examples of Orioles and change of scenery. Trey Mancini and Jorge Lopez left the team to become wash outs. Hicks, Webb, Burch Smith, Coulombe, Mateo were all washouts.

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Just now, Safelykept said:

You can try as hard as want, when you dont have traffic on in front of, or relevant batters behind you it adds up. Maybe you dont know who he is, opposing pitchers do. Plus they have they have exit velo with guy ( but very high GB rate), the O's are going to work on launch angle with him. Maybe they'll have more success than CWS.

Once again, trying to create a narrative.

Protection isn't really a thing (if it was his OBP would be higher). 

Not having guys on in front of you isn't going to cause you to put up 240/297/345.

I'm not sure why you think I don't know who he is?  That just seems a bit like you are trying to insult me?

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, jdwilde1 said:

Ahh, I think the current I’s regime is very good at helping hitters by introducing small tweaks and providing really good info.  They have turned around guys like O’Hearn and  Hicks, not to mention all of the hitters they have developed in the system.  I doubt that the White Sox are good at those things.

They might be, but they haven't actual had a chance to do anything right?

Hence all the "He's doing better just because he left Chicago" nonsense.

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1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

Once again, trying to create a narrative.

Protection isn't really a thing (if it was his OBP would be higher). 

Not having guys on in front of you isn't going to cause you to put up 240/297/345.

I'm not sure why you think I don't know who he is?  That just seems a bit like you are trying to insult me?

 

 

 

No insult intended, just a narrative on who the CWS are. And yes hes supposed to go after like a pro, but if you never worked in bad work place, you would not know, it adds up, and if its not a bad work place whats with The Crochet narrative, would you want him on youre team.

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7 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

They might be, but they haven't actual had a chance to do anything right?

Hence all the "He's doing better just because he left Chicago" nonsense.

I think you’d be in for a big wake up call if you actually had to spend a few days traveling with a major league team. They aren’t robots even if stat geeks would have you believe otherwise. 

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Big dude. He definitely gives off Delmon Young and Nelson Cruz vibes. 3 oppo base hits. 

We can say getting off the White Sox and playing better is “nonsense”. But players perform better when they have a role, and accept that role. It seems like he’s the full time DH now and Mounty will rotate at 1B with O’Hearn for a platoon. 

I’d say professional hitter but then that brings back memories of Jim Hunter calling “Niner” that. 

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46 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Once again, the dude is a DH.  Are you telling me he's not trying as hard as he can every at bat because his team sucks?

I don't want that guy on my team.

 

I should have known you'd be in here for this. 

 

As recently as 2023 he was somewhat productive in 120 or so games. There's 49 regular season games left,  and I'm guessing that he'll play in 40ish as a starter and PH'er. 

 

I don't expect him to carry the team on his back, but merely lengthen the lineup when he plays. 

 

And yes, no one can put a stat on it, but there's certainly issues with the White Sox that could prevent players from being a productive version of themselves. Or he could be DFA'ed next week. 

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8 minutes ago, Safelykept said:

No insult intended, just a narrative on who the CWS are. And yes hes supposed to go after like a pro, but if you never worked in bad work place, you would not know, it adds up, and if its not a bad work place whats with The Crochet narrative, would you want him on youre team.

Once again with the "You might not know".

You sure seem to think I might not know things.

I know who Eloy is and I know what it's like to have a poor work environment.

You go in and do your job regardless.  Going in and not doing your job isn't going to improve the situation, at least this way you know you aren't part of the problem.

 

Now the changing usage and theoretical mechanical tweaks could all be real things.  I'm not disputing any of that.

Just the idea that he couldn't hit as a DH because the White Sox were dysfunctional.

 

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