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Time for Bergesen to go back down (update: Bergesen sent down)

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Of all the hits Bergesen gave up today, quite a few of them were groundballs with eyes or down the line. If a decent defensive 3rd basemen was out there, who knows what could have happened. Of course, besides the Kotchman homer there were a couple nice hits, but I don't think Bergesen is that far from being effective.

Unfortunately, he may need to spend a while in the minors regaining his confidence and who knows if the zip on his fastball is going to get back there consistently. He did seem to be a lot more deliberate in his move to the plate today than most of last year, so I wonder if it might be something mechanical. How many starts has he made since resuming baseball activities? Including spring training it might be 6?

Hopefully he just needs time.

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I know it's early (three starts), but besides one good start in the spring, he's been terrible and it's all about command or lack there of. He can't throw his slider for strikes and when he does it's a hanger. His fastball has been all over the place and he's getting the ball up way too often.

Whether it's because of the shoulder injury this off season or not, all I can say is this is not the same guy as last year. It pains me to say that because he was so much fun to watch last year, but he needs to go back to Norfolk until he can refind his command. Also, his mound presence is terrible right now.

The guy we saw last year is a major league pitcher. Until he can refind that guy he needs to be pitching somewhere else.

Tony, how many more starts do you think they'll give him before opting for demotion? Are they on verge of doing it right now?

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There's working fast, and then there's hurrying though your delivery. He was really rushing by the third inning.

He looked rattle. But before we blame the defense, he also looked terrible and loaded the bases.

We can blame the defense for an error and a run, that's about it.

We can blame Bergesen for melting down after the error and for loading the bases prior to the error.

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There's working fast, and then there's hurrying though your delivery. He was really rushing by the third inning.

He looked rattle. But before we blame the defense, he also looked terrible and loaded the bases.

It appeared like he lost his composure in the span of three pitches: The double by Wilson where a good throw would have nailed him at second and the ball 1 call on the second pitch to Ichiro. When those two things didn't go his way, he freaked out.

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This is very discouraging to see. It seems he has lost his composure the last two start after defensive misplays. I honestly didn't expect to see that from Bergy. He looked like he was about to cry tonight and he was clearly frustrated. I know he doesn't have much command or his sinker back, but I think his main problem is pathological. It is obvious his head is not where it needs to be and he has no confidence whatsoever. I hope he can work out and fix his problems as he is my favorite player and can be one of best when he is on.

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I don't think he's psychologically over the horrific defense behind him.

This.

Tonight Bergy looked decent until his defense let him down. Then he rushed the ball to the plate horribly and kept the ball up. It's almost like he didn't trust his defense enough to throw his sinker again.

Holy over-reaction, Batman...

You didn't see him rshack... he just lost it out there. I agree with SG. He needs to go down and work on his mentality and confidence.

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