Jump to content

MacPhail is keeping mum about his future with the club

ChaosLex

By ChaosLex
in Orioles Talk

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 68
  • Created
  • Last Reply
BaltimoreTerp Hangout Grand Counsel

BaltimoreTerp

Posted
Posted
Macphail and his entire team have done nothing since he's been here. We are in worse shape than we were before he got here. Maybe we can get someone in here that knows talent and a support staff that can develop talent. I for one will be happy to see him not return. Let him ruin another organization. Give me back my O's and something to root for again. We won't miss him at all.

If you think he "ruined" this organization you have definitely made six posts too many. And probably drank that many shots, too.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
JTrea81 Hangout Grand Counsel

JTrea81

Posted
Posted
You didn't answer the question.

The answer is no, but the previous post I made still applies.

Nobody is telling Angelos to spend other than the fans.

We wanted him to be hands off, well he's being hands off and letting his frugal GM dictate how the O's will conduct baseball operations.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
mcneck Major Leaguer Cup of Coffee

mcneck

Posted
Posted
The answer is yes, but the previous post I made still applies.

Nobody is telling Angelos to spend other than the fans.

We wanted him to be hands off, well he's being hands off and letting his frugal GM dictate how the O's will conduct baseball operations.

How do you know he is being hands off?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Crazysilver03 Hangout Grand Counsel

Crazysilver03

Posted
Posted
Has AM been the GM the whole time PA has been the owner?
The answer is yes, but the previous post I made still applies.

Nobody is telling Angelos to spend other than the fans.

We wanted him to be hands off, well he's being hands off and letting his frugal GM dictate how the O's will conduct baseball operations.

The answer is pretty clearly NO.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
JTrea81 Hangout Grand Counsel

JTrea81

Posted
Posted
The answer is pretty clearly NO.

Yeah that's what I meant, I misread his question.

Anyway, PGA is not getting any younger and it all depends on if he wants to see a winning Orioles team in the years he has left on this earth.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Sports Guy Hangout Grand Counsel

Sports Guy

Posted
Posted
The answer is no, but the previous post I made still applies.

Nobody is telling Angelos to spend other than the fans.

We wanted him to be hands off, well he's being hands off and letting his frugal GM dictate how the O's will conduct baseball operations.

The fact that you believe this shows you really have no understanding of what is going on.

So, let me get this straight....You feel that Angelos, after years and years of being the same owner he has always been, is all of a sudden going to totally change his principles on big time contracts, give yet another GM full control and open the payroll up 30+ million abocve a level where the organization says is higher than they want to be right now?

You don't see how idiotic this sounds?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
JTrea81 Hangout Grand Counsel

JTrea81

Posted
Posted
The fact that you believe this shows you really have no understanding of what is going on.

So, let me get this straight....You feel that Angelos, after years and years of being the same owner he has always been, is all of a sudden going to totally change his principles on big time contracts, give yet another GM full control and open the payroll up 30+ million abocve a level where the organization says is higher than they want to be right now?

You don't see how idiotic this sounds?

It's a thing to hope for when the alternative is that we're doomed, that PGA might have an Ebenezer Scrooge moment. It's all we can look forward to as fans...

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Malike Hangout Grand Counsel

Malike

Posted
Posted
The answer is no, but the previous post I made still applies.

Nobody is telling Angelos to spend other than the fans.

We wanted him to be hands off, well he's being hands off and letting his frugal GM dictate how the O's will conduct baseball operations.

Okay, read what I've put in bold there. Then, try to think a little bit about what you typed. Did it ever cross your mind that perhaps, Angelos is telling his personnel he isn't going to spend, not the other way around? You keep blaming the GM for being frugal, and you are ignoring the obvious here. PGA is the problem, and if you get your wish of Cashman or Hart, you'll see that you were wrong all along.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Sports Guy Hangout Grand Counsel

Sports Guy

Posted
Posted
It's a thing to hope for when the alternative is that we're doomed, that PGA might have an Ebenezer Scrooge moment. It's all we can look forward to as fans...

Ok fine...Then look forward to it and hope for it...I am fine with that.

But that's not what you do. You come on here, give PA a pass, put everything wrong with the team on the shoulders of AM and pretend that he is the biggest issue.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
JTrea81 Hangout Grand Counsel

JTrea81

Posted
Posted
Ok fine...Then look forward to it and hope for it...I am fine with that.

But that's not what you do. You come on here, give PA a pass, put everything wrong with the team on the shoulders of AM and pretend that he is the biggest issue.

Well he's not helping things. The thing that frustrates me most with MacPhail is that he's got the autonomy to do things, and yet he doesn't do them.

If he told Peter Angelos the the Orioles needed to spend internationally, and needed to spend on premium talent, don't you think PGA would be inclined to listen?

The Orioles never spent overslot on the draft, and then they changed that approach. Who is to say they can't change their approach elsewhere?

But right now the man in charge is telling the owner everything is sunshine and roses with the way they are doing things now.

I feel the owner can change, but he's got to hear the right message.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Sports Guy Hangout Grand Counsel

Sports Guy

Posted
Posted
Well he's not helping things. The thing that frustrates me most with MacPhail is that he's got the autonomy to do things, and yet he doesn't do them.

I am not sure he has much autonomy as you feel. What do you think he is allowed to do that he isn't doing?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
JTrea81 Hangout Grand Counsel

JTrea81

Posted
Posted
Okay, read what I've put in bold there. Then, try to think a little bit about what you typed. Did it ever cross your mind that perhaps, Angelos is telling his personnel he isn't going to spend, not the other way around? You keep blaming the GM for being frugal, and you are ignoring the obvious here. PGA is the problem, and if you get your wish of Cashman or Hart, you'll see that you were wrong all along.

I'm willing to admit that if MacPhail is replaced and the same thing occurs.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Sports Guy Hangout Grand Counsel

Sports Guy

Posted
Posted
I'm willing to admit that if MacPhail is replaced and the same thing occurs.

What I want to know is why are you ignoring what happened before AM got here? GMs weren't allowed to do anything..Money wasn't being spent. INt'l signings were nothing...Drafts were terrible..etc...

The list goes on and on...Why do you act as if none of that ever happened?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing


  • Posts

    • foxfield
      JD Martinez

      By foxfield · Posted

      What you want is perfectly reasonable.  But you seem entirely to focused on money.  The team needs to work to improve.  I don't care what it costs, you shouldn't either.  They are going to spend money and payroll will be higher next year and the year after that.  We need them to make improvements and some of that is rightfully going to come from within and not cost much. The improvements that are needed are going to cost too, I'm not saying they wont.  But ownership and the GM should simply work in tandem to make sure the team has what it needs.  I am not really concerned about how much that costs because it should be able to be done without jumping this particular team into say top ten in payroll.
    • casadeozo
      JD Martinez

      By casadeozo · Posted

      This is the right approach. the orioles should be spending more money and I believe they will, but I expect it to be measured with less risk (ie we won’t be handing out a Hader type deal or a  long term contract to Santander IMO) improving on some of the obvious weaknesses certainly makes sense.    1x SP: Burnes, Fried, Buehler 1x RH OF/DH: Martinez, O’Neill, Profar 1x 1B: (wishlist) Alonso, Walker
    • Aristotelian
      Hyde: No Idea if Suarez Will Be Back

      By Aristotelian · Posted

      Interesting. I had forgotten that they signed him and then got him in the pitching lab in the offseason. Since September is prior to the end of the season, I would take "two year contract" to mean September '23 is Year 1, and then '24 is Year 2.  That is a cool article. Very encouraging how closely they are following the KBO. 
    • Aglets
      2024 Week 5: Ravens @ Bengals

      By Aglets · Posted

      I think most teams would want to have an MVP candidate at quarterback.   Most of the time this will mean that he is better than the guy they currently have.  That's why. My quote was not taking salary into account.  If you take his current salary into account I think you are still talking about a majority of the NFL teams that would take him right now.  If the salary is an issue you find a way to make it work.  I'm starting to come around to the idea that the salary cap is kinda fake in a way after I keep seeing teams do stuff like adding void years other trickery to get the guys they want.
    • Sports Guy
      2024 Ravens regular season discussion

      By Sports Guy · Posted

      Well I sort of disagree here. You said guys have been bad to questionable. I think that’s wrong. I just think a few guys have been awful and that has really hurt us. I would absolutely give Washington more time. Brade and Kane are well liked but doubtful they want to play them much right now. A trade should be considered if things don’t improve.
    • OriolesMagic83
      Hyde: No Idea if Suarez Will Be Back

      By OriolesMagic83 · Posted

      Yeah, I'd rather keep him over Soto.  I mean Soto can't start.  Yes Soto was dominant at times out of the bullpen but he was also gasoline on a fire out of the bullpen.  I would rather pay Suarez $4 or 5 million, knowing he can start or pitch in the bullpen than Soto, knowing he can only start and is liable to melt down when needed most.  
    • Spy Fox
      JD Martinez

      By Spy Fox · Posted

      It is funny how much Hays (the pre-2024 version anyway) matches the type of player they'll likely look for. I doubt that reunion happens though. 

  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...