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allstar1579 Hangout Grand Counsel

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Yeah because players careers usually end when they are 30.

You aren't just signing him when he's 30, you are signing him when he's 39 too. If he's worth the $20m for 3 years and then only worth $4-5m the rest of the contract, we are seriously in the hole.

People don't seem to realize if the O's splurge on one of these big contracts, that will be ALL they do. You won't see them sign another one later when it still isn't enough to make us good.

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Yeah because players careers usually end when they are 30.

Players with similar skills as Fielder have a historical tendency to fall off in their early thirties.

He could easily be Ted Kluzewski or Ralph Kiner, who were done at 32. Orlando Cepeda was done at 33 (and he's a Hall of Famer), along with Dick Allen. Adam Dunn looks like a candidate for such a decline right now.

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Players with similar skills as Fielder have a historical tendency to fall off in their early thirties.

He could easily be Ted Kluzewski or Ralph Kiner, who were done at 32. Orlando Cepeda was done at 33 (and he's a Hall of Famer), along with Dick Allen. Adam Dunn looks like a candidate for such a decline right now.

Compare him to Don Baylor or Lee May. They played quite a while at a high level. I see no evidence to suggest he is about to decline.

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You aren't just signing him when he's 30, you are signing him when he's 39 too. If he's worth the $20m for 3 years and then only worth $4-5m the rest of the contract, we are seriously in the hole.

People don't seem to realize if the O's splurge on one of these big contracts, that will be ALL they do. You won't see them sign another one later when it still isn't enough to make us good.

I would rather them sign one great player instead of getting Lee, Vlad, and Reynolds like they did last year.

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I would rather them sign one great player instead of getting Lee, Vlad, and Reynolds like they did last year.

No, see, it's not ONE year they aren't going to sign someone, it's the length of the contract. So you won't want to add or extend anyone for 6-10 years?

I agree place-holders are not a good use of funds, but at least they are off the books now (Lee/Vlad). It's easier to add an expensive piece after you have your cheap pieces than it is to fill cheap players in around an expensive player.

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Players with similar skills as Fielder have a historical tendency to fall off in their early thirties.

He could easily be Ted Kluzewski or Ralph Kiner, who were done at 32. Orlando Cepeda was done at 33 (and he's a Hall of Famer), along with Dick Allen. Adam Dunn looks like a candidate for such a decline right now.

We'd get 4 years of premium production. Considering that is the window for this core to hit and/or stay at peak performance, a contract to a soon to be 28 year old makes sense.

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If you think this is a two-option choice, I can see why you have such a problem understanding where most people are coming from.

WHat is the other choice? The team has no top first baseman prospects. Do they even have a legitimate slugger in the system? You have to take chances when you want to improve. Fielder seems like a low risk chance to take. If all you are worried about is signing Wieters and Jones for the future than you have no hope. You need to make the team better to increase revenue. The team needs stars.

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We know its extremely likely.

And EVERY team can guarantee winning moreso than the Orioles.

Your little theories are relatively meaningless.

He is looking for 2 things...biggest contract and chance to win. That's it. You can make up anything else you want but its all wrong.

He doesn't need to go to OPACY to hit homers. He doesn't need to play Boston and NY to get noticed.

He just needs to get paid and have a chance to win.

Sorry to jump into the conversation so late, but has anyone ever heard him say he is looking for a record breaking contract? I have not heard a peep out of him. If this is what his agent is saying, it's not shocking, since the agent gets more if Prince gets more. Is there a quote somewhere out there where Fielder says, "I want money, money and more money?"

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