Drew Pomeranz is NOT an answer the O's should even consider (Red Sox)

[Can_of_corn]

Good lord that's even worse. A true #1 ceiling pitcher is super rare.

I've been saying the prices are going to be insane for pitching help.

[Tryptamine]

So the Red Sox get 2 1/2 years of Pomeranz for an 18 year old kid.

Ugh

The #15 prospect in baseball with a ceiling to be one of the most dominating pitchers in baseball. There's a reason his numbers aren't good yet and he's still ranked that high.

[Bahama O's Fan]

You always get fleeced in trade deadline deals.

[Es4M11]

http://www.soxprospects.com/players/espinoza-anderson.htm

Summation: Top-of-the-rotation, ace potential. Has the combination of stuff, delivery and feel for pitching to be one of the top pitchers in all of baseball if things break right. Potential for three plus-or-better offerings with plus command profile. Stuff and feel is very advanced for age. Type of pitching prospect who doesn?t come along very often.

Sounds like a Dylan Bundy scouting report from 2012.

[weams]

So the Red Sox get 2 1/2 years of Pomeranz for an 18 year old kid.

Ugh

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="es" dir="ltr">So, the Red Sox have traded Manuel Margot, Carlos Asuaje, Javier Guerra, Logan Allen and Anderson Espinoza to SD for Kimbrel and Pomeranz.</p>— Chris Cotillo (@ChrisCotillo) <a href="

">July 14, 2016</a></blockquote>

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[weams]

Sounds like a Dylan Bundy scouting report from 2012.

Bio: Dylan Bundy did little to disappoint going from the Sally Leagues to the Orioles during his first professional season. The 4th overall pick in the 2012 draft was treated with kid gloves a bit in order to control his innings including limited him to three and four inning stints though his first six starts in Delmarva. Didn't allow a hit until his 5th start of the season and never gave up an earned run in the Sally League through 30 innings pitched while posting an incredible 40-2 K-BB ratio. The 19-year old was promoted to Frederick (High-A) in late May and pitched well in 57 innings over 12 starts, striking out 66 while walking 18 and posting a 2.84 ERA. Carolina League batters hit .233 off him which probably seemed high after he dominated Sally League hitters to the tune of a .053 batting average against. Promoted to Bowie in late August, Bundy's command fell off a bit as he walked eight in 16 and two-third innings while striking out just 13. With injuries mounting and the Orioles in a playoff chase, they promoted Bundy to the major leagues in late September where he made two uneventful relief appearances.

Stuff: Bundy's fastball sits comfortably in the 94-96 mph range although he can touch 97-99 at times. His fastball has some arm-side run, but his nice smooth over the top delivery doesn't lead to much deception and batters can barrel it when he gets it up in the zone. His fastball plays better when he commands his offspeed pitches, but despite the velocity, he'll need to be able to command his fastball to all quadrants of the zone in order to keep big league batters off the pitch. Due to the velocity and some arm side run, his fastball is a plus pitch, but he's going to be a bit of a flyball pitcher due to his tendency for the pitch to end up in the upper part of the zone. The Orioles took away Bundy's cutter, the pitch Bundy felt was his best off-speed pitch, in the minor leagues so he would focus on developing his change up and curveball. The decision had the right effect as Bundy's changeup developed nicely and he showed confidence in throwing the pitch late in the year. His change has some nice arm-side fade and drop and flashes some plus potential. His curveball is an 11-5 (catcher's perspective) hammer that can be nearly unhittable when he's commanding it over the plate. The pitch comes in around 77 mph and has such hard, late bite that some minor league hitters just give up on it because they can't do anything with the pitch. It can be a plus-plus pitch at times, but he had some command problems with the pitch on and off and needs to be more consistent. His "cutter" has almost slider action that he throws around 85 MPH and dives late. He threw five of them in his two major appearances so it's hard to get a read on the pitch, but it certainly gives him another look if and when the Orioles give the pitch back to him.

Pitchability and Intangibles: Bundy shows a good aptitude to improve and even though he has his own beliefs on how to prepare, he bought into the Orioles development plan for him or at least there was no clear signs that he was not following the plan. He's an extremely hard worker who has that rare combination of being confident but not to the point of arrogance. He fields his position well and did not commit an error last season. He can be slow to the plate at times and needs to improve his pick off move and the process of holding runners.

Conclusion: Bundy has the all the attributes you look for in a top of the rotation starter besides ideal size. He has four major league pitches and can command each of them. He can occasionally struggle to keep his fastball down in the zone but few think that's not something he can't overcome. Most likely the Orioles will want to keep Bundy to around 150-175 innings next season so he may be limited in the minor leagues to five inning starts in order to keep the option open of adding him to the big league rotation if their is a need. Chances are Bundy will start 2013 in the minor leagues, mostly like at Double-A, but with some slight improvements, Bundy should be major league ready by mid-year.

Tony-OH

[weams]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="es" dir="ltr">So, the Red Sox have traded Manuel Margot, Carlos Asuaje, Javier Guerra, Logan Allen and Anderson Espinoza to SD for Kimbrel and Pomeranz.</p>— Chris Cotillo (@ChrisCotillo) <a href="

">July 14, 2016</a></blockquote>

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Anderson Espinoza is the No. 15 prospect in baseball. Only pitchers ahead of him are Reyes, Giolito and Glasnow: <a href="https://t.co/Mz7Dg92Zo5">https://t.co/Mz7Dg92Zo5</a></p>— Ben Badler (@BenBadler) <a href="

">July 14, 2016</a></blockquote>

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[LookitsPuck]

The #15 prospect in baseball with a ceiling to be one of the most dominating pitchers in baseball. There's a reason his numbers aren't good yet and he's still ranked that high.

I get that. But he's so far out who knows what can happen. See: Dylan Bundy.

[weams]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Executives have been saying this will be a seller's market. The fact that San Diego got Anderson Espinoza for Drew Pomeranz shows as much.</p>— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) <a href="

">July 14, 2016</a></blockquote>

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[LookitsPuck]

It's not as if Drew Pomeranz is chop liver.

He was the 5th overall pick in the 2010 draft. Last 3 years including this year: 257 IP, 2.84 ERA, 36 games started, 54 games as a reliever, 3.48 FIP, 137 ERA+, 9.1 SO/9, 3.4 BB/9, 6.6 H/9, 1.117 WHIP

He's under control through 2018.

He's making $1.4m.

I mean, why wouldn't he cost a ton?

[Machado13]

Preller is really setting up Padres nicely. International market, nice return on Rodney and impressive return on Pomeranz.

IMO it's going to be a bumpy road for pomeranz in the al east but maybe that's just me.

[weams]

It's not as if Drew Pomeranz is chop liver.

He was the 5th overall pick in the 2010 draft. Last 3 years including this year: 257 IP, 2.84 ERA, 36 games started, 54 games as a reliever, 3.48 FIP, 137 ERA+, 9.1 SO/9, 3.4 BB/9, 6.6 H/9, 1.117 WHIP

He's under control through 2018.

He's making $1.4m.

I mean, why wouldn't he cost a ton?

Red Sox have immediately improved. Two lefties in the rotation as well.

[Can_of_corn]

It's not as if Drew Pomeranz is chop liver.

He was the 5th overall pick in the 2010 draft. Last 3 years including this year: 257 IP, 2.84 ERA, 36 games started, 54 games as a reliever, 3.48 FIP, 137 ERA+, 9.1 SO/9, 3.4 BB/9, 6.6 H/9, 1.117 WHIP

He's under control through 2018.

He's making $1.4m.

I mean, why wouldn't he cost a ton?

No way the O's could have matched the price.

[LookitsPuck]

Preller is really setting up Padres nicely. International market, nice return on Rodney and impressive return on Pomeranz.

IMO it's going to be a bumpy road for pomeranz in the al east but maybe that's just me.

I hope he gets destroyed.

That said, the Red Sox now have a very solid 1-4: Price, Wright, Porcello, Pomeranz

...with Buccholz in the #5 hole.

[T. Legend]

Red Sox have immediately improved. Two lefties in the rotation as well.

Drew Pomeranz is having the best pitching year of his life and about to pass his career high in innings. He has pitched in the NL West, where literally a dozen of his fly ball outs would have been home runs or extra bases in Fenway.

Good luck Boston.