Trade deadline possibilities

[ArtVanDelay]

Shoemaker is no #3, what are you smoking.

He's pitched like a #1 recently. His last 2 starts haven't been great.

[aewell]

Shoemaker is going to be expensive since he still has 4 years of control after this year.

I want no part of Hellickson. I have a feeling that he'll be the pitcher version of Parra.

Shoemaker sucks! Control years or not. He is a fly ball pitcher which is not what DD looks for. So you can give it up!

[LookitsPuck]

So you want to trade away a top prospect for a declining pitcher. WHY?

He's not declining. He had a poor 2015, an excellent 2014 and a solid 2015 that only looks mediocre due to a poor April. He's under control for a few more years, also.

[aewell]

He's not declining. He had a poor 2015, an excellent 2014 and a solid 2015 that only looks mediocre due to a poor April. He's under control for a few more years, also.

Fly ball pitcher ... nothing to see here ... keep it moving .. Next option please .. Shoemaker will never happen .. Plus he sucks!

[ArtVanDelay]

Shoemaker sucks! Control years or not. He is a fly ball pitcher which is not what DD looks for. So you can give it up!

He has the exact same career FB% as Wei Yin Chen.

[LookitsPuck]

Shoemaker sucks! Control years or not. He is a fly ball pitcher which is not what DD looks for. So you can give it up!

Bud Norris was a fly ball pitcher. Chen was a fly ball pitcher. I don't think Duquette really looks for any particular type of pitcher, honestly.

[aewell]

He has the exact same career FB% as Wei Yin Chen.

Exactly!.. Did we resign him?

[LookitsPuck]

Exactly!.. Did we resign him?

Duquette signed him in the first place. To a multiyear deal. I'm sure (hope?) that he had metrics saying he was a FB pitcher.

[ArtVanDelay]

Exactly!.. Did we resign him?

What does that have to do with anything? DD signed him in the first place.

Chen did pretty well in Baltimore despite being a fly ball pitcher.

[aewell]

Bud Norris was a fly ball pitcher. Chen was a fly ball pitcher. I don't think Duquette really looks for any particular type of pitcher, honestly.

If you watch the draft closely. DD purposely drafted ground ball dominate pitchers in the first three picks. That was on purpose.

[aewell]

Duquette signed him in the first place. To a multiyear deal. I'm sure (hope?) that he had metrics saying he was a FB pitcher.

Out of Asia.. He didn't play in the Majors prior

[ArtVanDelay]

Out of Asia.. He didn't play in the Majors prior

He traded for Bud Norris.

[aewell]

He traded for Bud Norris.

and where is Bud now? He could have resigned him on the cheap last off season.

[ArtVanDelay]

and where is Bud now?

In LA, why?

He still traded for him. You said DD didn't target those types of players. We just gave you two examples.

[El Gordo]

On this club he is a #3. And it wouldn't shock me if he ends up with better overall numbers than Gausman.

Since facing the O's for the first time this year in mid May: 2.67 ERA .249/.279/.385 - .664 OPS, 10 SO/9, 1.084 WHIP, 1.2 BB/9

I mean, those are #1 numbers on this club during that period.

I have no problem with Shoemaker this year as well as Hellickson, or Santana. I just don't want to be stuck with him for the next 4 years. There are other more interesting choices in next year FA than him for a #5 SP.