Jump to content

5th round pick - Greg Miclat, SS, U of Virginia


Recommended Posts

  • Replies 58
  • Created
  • Last Reply

I'm assuming this will get done, we will just have to wait. Jordan has a pretty good track record with getting his picks signed and considering since he has been here only 2 top ten round draft picks have not signed(Emeel Saleem(2006, 10th Round) and Eryk McConnell(2007, 10th Round)), I have faith Miclat will be in an O's uniform come August 15th

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...
After the first week of games in the Cape Cod League, Miclat is tied for the League lead with a .444 AVG (10 H in 27 AB's) and tied for 2nd in stolen bases with 5 of 6. He also has 10 runs scored.

Tony,

Can we get these guys in the prospect tracker so that RZNJ and everyone else can post these gems in one place?

By the way, thanks RZNJ.:)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...

I'd love to hear some more inside scoop about what the holdup is with him. You would just think a college player would jump at the chance to play in an organization that is a barren wasteland at his position. I mean, he'd immediately become our de facto SS of the future, wouldn't he?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'd love to hear some more inside scoop about what the holdup is with him. You would just think a college player would jump at the chance to play in an organization that is a barren wasteland at his position. I mean, he'd immediately become our de facto SS of the future, wouldn't he?

I agree 100 percent. I'm not sure why Miclat thinks he'll significantly up his value by going back and playing his senior year. He'll still be a 5-foot-8 slap hitting shortstop but he'll be 22-years old instead of 21. He'll also have no leverage because his college days will be behind him.

This is the perfect situation for Miclat. He's going to an organization that has no true everyday major league shortstop anywhere in the system (Rosa is still too far away to know anything definitive). The Aberdeen Ironbirds have no real shortstop right now so there's a spot open at a great place to play in a great league to get his feet wet.

He could be getting professional at bats right now and if he did well, he could be looking at starting at Frederick next year. Good half of a season there and he's at Bowie. In 2010 he could be looking at being in the picture for a major league job if he's a good enough.

Really, by holding out he's throwing away a year of development because the most likely scenario would see him starting next year at Delmarva is he signs too late to play this year.

If he goes back to college, I doubt he moves up very far in the draft even if he has a better year because the added age will hurt his status. unless he thinks he's going to start popping home runs next year, he's a 4th rounder at best talent.

To me, whoever is advising this kid is not doing him any favors.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I agree 100 percent. I'm not sure why Miclat thinks he'll significantly up his value by going back and playing his senior year. He'll still be a 5-foot-8 slap hitting shortstop but he'll be 22-years old instead of 21. He'll also have no leverage because his college days will be behind him.

This is the perfect situation for Miclat. He's going to an organization that has no true everyday major league shortstop anywhere in the system (Rosa is still too far away to know anything definitive). The Aberdeen Ironbirds have no real shortstop right now so there's a spot open at a great place to play in a great league to get his feet wet.

He could be getting professional at bats right now and if he did well, he could be looking at starting at Frederick next year. Good half of a season there and he's at Bowie. In 2010 he could be looking at being in the picture for a major league job if he's a good enough.

Really, by holding out he's throwing away a year of development because the most likely scenario would see him starting next year at Delmarva is he signs too late to play this year.

If he goes back to college, I doubt he moves up very far in the draft even if he has a better year because the added age will hurt his status. unless he thinks he's going to start popping home runs next year, he's a 4th rounder at best talent.

To me, whoever is advising this kid is not doing him any favors.

Tony - any word from the O's brass as to whether we are in active dicussions with him? His departure from the Cape Cod league makes me wonder.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I agree 100 percent. I'm not sure why Miclat thinks he'll significantly up his value by going back and playing his senior year. He'll still be a 5-foot-8 slap hitting shortstop but he'll be 22-years old instead of 21. He'll also have no leverage because his college days will be behind him.

This is the perfect situation for Miclat. He's going to an organization that has no true everyday major league shortstop anywhere in the system (Rosa is still too far away to know anything definitive). The Aberdeen Ironbirds have no real shortstop right now so there's a spot open at a great place to play in a great league to get his feet wet.

He could be getting professional at bats right now and if he did well, he could be looking at starting at Frederick next year. Good half of a season there and he's at Bowie. In 2010 he could be looking at being in the picture for a major league job if he's a good enough.

Really, by holding out he's throwing away a year of development because the most likely scenario would see him starting next year at Delmarva is he signs too late to play this year.

If he goes back to college, I doubt he moves up very far in the draft even if he has a better year because the added age will hurt his status. unless he thinks he's going to start popping home runs next year, he's a 4th rounder at best talent.

To me, whoever is advising this kid is not doing him any favors.

I think logically your point is right on... but if he loves college ball and wants to stay in school and play with his teammates, and remain on the traditional college path to get his degree, I can't blame him. You're talking about 10,000 girls around his age, parties every Thursday, Friday, and Saturday outside of the season, and probably what he views as lifelong friends amongst his teammates.

It would've taken a lot for me to give up my senior year. He might be losing a little by potentially not going pro now, but it'd be hard to convince him he's losing a lot. If he loves what he's doing in college, he may feel like it would be a lot to give up. And he may not feel like waiting a year will be a detriment to his professional goals in the long run.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I think logically your point is right on... but if he loves college ball and wants to stay in school and play with his teammates, and remain on the traditional college path to get his degree, I can't blame him. You're talking about 10,000 girls around his age, parties every Thursday, Friday, and Saturday outside of the season, and probably what he views as lifelong friends amongst his teammates.

It would've taken a lot for me to give up my senior year. He might be losing a little by potentially not going pro now, but it'd be hard to convince him he's losing a lot. If he loves what he's doing in college, he may feel like it would be a lot to give up. And he may not feel like waiting a year will be a detriment to his professional goals in the long run.

This is all well and good, and senior year of college should be great fun. But if Miclat was so interested in returning to school, it should have been clearly communicated. If it was clearly communicated, then it may be on the Orioles - but that seems very unlikely to me.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Posts

    • It's been a couple months, let's check in on where things sit. Tony's ranking in parentheses: Locks: 1. Coby Mayo (3) - Stud. He won't need to wait till the winter. 2. Cade Povich (5) - Bad start last night but 3.85 xFIP in AAA this year, he's looked really good. 3. Chayce McDermott (8): 14.36 K/9 in Norfolk but 5.74 BB/9 too.  4. Connor Norby (10): .386 wOBA, .309 xwOBA this year - I'm not a fan but he still gets added More Likely Than Not: 5. Brandon Young (26): The move to Norfolk proves they think he's for real. He has the best xFIP in the org (2.17) He hasn't thrown 5 innings in an outing yet though. They're still being cautious with him. 6. Kade Strowd (20): 2.88 xFIP and got bumped to Norfolk. He has a real shot to get added. He could be bullpen depth this year even. Other Names to Watch: Trey McGough - LHP, got bumped to Norfolk. 3.78 xFIP there so far. Luis Gonzalez - 32 year old Mexican league find like Suarez, Cesar Valdez, Miguel Gonzalez, but he'll get a cup of coffee this year the way he's pitching. 3.43 xFIP in 22 IP inNorfolk. Maverick Handley - .246/.357/.396 in Norfolk and reportedly has a strong arm. Do they trade for Blake Hunt if they like Handley to replace McCann next year?  Nick Richmond - Strong numbers in Bowie to start the year, 3.34 xFIP Eligible, but Not Playing Well Enough for Consideration: Hudson Haskin, Billy Cook, Justin Armbreuster, Keagan Gillies, John Rhodes, Carter Baumler, Kyle Brnovich, Moises Chace, Wandisson Charles, Carlos Tavera
    • Elias has so many factors to contemplate in consideration of trade acquisitions.  Among them is how he foresees the 2025 roster (and beyond) and whether trading a player or prospect away will affect that roster.  Luzardo would fit in very well, as we'd have him this year and two more, helping to offset the loss of Burnes after this season. Is it potentially worth losing six years of control of multiple prospects?  It was worth losing Ortiz and Hall and all their years of control for one season of Burnes.  Such considerations make for an interesting aspect of determining who to target and knowing what your max offer would be.  Being on the same page with the other team's GM may still find you on the outside looking in if another team ups their offer enough to outbid you. I'd be in heaven to be able to be with Elias as he has these conversations and to see how he views things. 
    • Randy Arozarena is another example of the surprise and unpredictability of the game. In his breakout years of 2019-2020, he had pretty scary stats, albeit with limited plate appearances. High average, and OPS+ of 135 and 182 respectively. Yikes! Since then, he's had 3 full ML years under his belt -- 2021, 2022 and 2023. He got slightly worse each year according to OPS+ (129, 123, 120) but that's not a huge backslide. 2022 was a big doubles year for him, then in 2023 he hit more home runs and fewer doubles. Last year he was a .254 hitter with 23 home runs, 19 doubles and 3 triples. With a 120 OPS+, he's still a major league piece you would want in a lineup. Then there's this year. In 230 PA -- about a third of a season -- he has shown a huge dropoff in hits. He's on pace to get about the same number of doubles and home runs as last year, but about 50 fewer hits. His OPS+ is half of last year's, and worse than ML average at 65. In recent years, he's been a batter I've dreaded to see at the plate against the O's. But this year, he's showing signs of Chris Davis syndrome with the batting average falling off a cliff. Perhaps not coincidentally, the Rays are not where they'd like to be at this point in the season with a losing record. Baseball is weird.
    • Love Cole Irvin as the guy who can move around a pitching staff and I'd be fine with him as the 4th/5th starter.   If you can get a guy and bump him into the spot starter/long man role, he will benefit this team more.
    • The #RisingTide doesn't stop when it starts inundating higher value MLB careers. It is an important decision for the Orioles to get right how many from 0-4 out of Heston Kjerstad, Coby Mayo, Jackson Holliday and Samuel Basallo ought to appear in an October 2024 lineup.     This is likely the singular season Corbin Burnes and Samuel Basallo can contribute cWPA to Baltimore. With about half the year to year player fluctuations and injury results in view, you can kind of MadLib the Orioles old outfielders that might still be unconstrained starters on other contenders with LF-CF-RF WAA weaknesses, and a medium strong middle reliever on those teams where maybe there is a 2024 balanced Bat for Arm situation. RF Santander back to Cleveland for Scott Barlow? CF Mullins to LA Dodgers for Daniel Hudson and/or Blake Treinen? LF Hays to Minnesota for Jorge Alcala?
    • IMHO there is close to a zero chance the O's would deal Mayo for Luzardo.  I have doubts we'd trade for him at all, but especially when names like Mayo come up.  Holliday, Mayo, and Basallo are top tier prospects (and Kjerstad is another highly rated one) but Luzardo, while very good, is not worth a top tier prospect, yet.  If he stays healthy and looks great, that could change, but even then, not for our Top 3.  If the Marlins could net Kjerstad in their package I'd call that a win for them, but his inclusion also seems unlikely. To be clear, I'd love to add Luzardo, but like most trade ideas, what we'd give up would have to be agreeable.
    • The very concept is baffling  You are supposed to hit a round ball with an oblong bat and hit it Square.  That is very hard to do  No wonder only a very small % of people on the planet can do it very good.
  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...