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19 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

I would hope that he would have hit his innings cap by then.

That would be nice -- it would probably mean his MILB season went well. Even if so, I would imagine they might save a few innings for a taste of the majors in September, anticipating a 2019 roster spot.

Either way, it's so important they don't mishandle Harvey's development. Let him dominate for a full season in the minors and earn his way to the majors. 

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4 minutes ago, Bradysburns said:

That would be nice -- it would probably mean his MILB season went well. Even if so, I would imagine they might save a few innings for a taste of the majors in September, anticipating a 2019 roster spot.

Either way, it's so important they don't mishandle Harvey's development. Let him dominate for a full season in the minors and earn his way to the majors. 

Yup - we're not going to compete in 2018 anyway, so it'd be doubly foolish to rush him.  Make 2019 a return of Orioles Magic.  

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I was reading this article about the Yankees' interest in Manny.

It mentions the Yankees trading Montgomery, the young MLB starter, and Chance Adams. I would do that deal right now, most likely. 

But even better would be Montgomery OR Adams... and Gleybar Torres. Apparently, this is in the realm of possibility. 

You'd have an infield of Torres, Mountcastle, Schoop and Davis for years to come (if you retained Schoop).

That could be epic!

Plus, you'd have a core of three young starters: Bundy, Gausman, Montgomery for this season. You add in one high-level FA starter this year... and Harvey for 2019... and boom. Start cashing those championship checks! (JK.)

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19 hours ago, panick said:

The off-season isn't over yet.

I'm actually pretty confident that he is not going to sign a bunch of 35 year old free agents. I'm also confident I won't like several of his signings and other pickups! :) But not because they are geriatrics. That's not a big fault of DD and a lot of those players don't even seem to exist in MLB anymore. Strong correlation with better/more testing for PED's and the almost disappearance of mid-30's free agents, especially position players. I think a study published a couple of years ago showed a 3.5 to 4 year drop in the average age of players on rosters from 2002 to 2012. So there's a chance that DD would sign those players if they existed! ;)

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On 1/10/2018 at 8:44 AM, Frobby said:

Do you think Hays is more likely to be on the Opening Day roster than Sisco?     I’d say it’s the opposite.   

I think Sisco has more of a thought making it, then i would have thought.

Sounds like he has done some serious work on his defense.

 

http://www.masnsports.com/steve-melewski/2018/01/will-os-take-a-chance-is-sisco-ready-for-the-majors.html

 

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2 hours ago, Ohfan67 said:

I'm actually pretty confident that he is not going to sign a bunch of 35 year old free agents. I'm also confident I won't like several of his signings and other pickups! :) But not because they are geriatrics. That's not a big fault of DD and a lot of those players don't even seem to exist in MLB anymore. Strong correlation with better/more testing for PED's and the almost disappearance of mid-30's free agents, especially position players.  I think a study published a couple of years ago showed a 3.5 to 4 year drop in the average age of players on rosters from 2002 to 2012.So there's a chance that DD would sign those players if they existed! ;)

Nah.   Per BB-ref, in 2002 the average AL batter was 28.8, pitchers averaged 28.7   In 2012, 28.7 and 28.2.

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15 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

I think Joseph starts opening day and they finish within a couple hundred innings of each other.

I agree on that, if he is healthy, he gets the opening day nod.

If Sisco makes the team, it will be as backup, something like 65-35 split, and gradually changes by ASB, Sisco will be catching the majority of the games, 70-30, if he performs well. IMO

 

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On 1/10/2018 at 5:36 PM, Frobby said:

This is very true.    As recently as MacPhail’s last year we had 36-year old Vlad Guerrero and 35-year old Derek Lee on the roster.    The year before that we had 36-year old Miguel Tejada.    Duquette has preferred giving younger players a chance.    Of course, he signed O’Day and Davis through age 36, but those are different from signing a guy who’s already old and showing significant signs of going downhill.

Did Duquette make the decisions to sign O'Day and Davis as free agents? I sure don't know (though I have my suspicions).

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