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Both were never highly rated prospects in their respective systems, but worked their way up the ladder, made it to the majors, and in the case of Kuechel, has had a ton of success despite lacking domi

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LOL - as I look back upon my life (at 75), I was thinking about a WAR scheme for life.  @Frobby and @DrungoHazewood could dream up such a chart with comparable quantities to BABIP, UZR, OPS, SLG, OBP,

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41 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

 

When asked on my radio spot last week what players on the current 25-man roster could be part of a winning future here, I named John Means and Renato Nunez. That should tell you what I think of his new change-up. That said, I like that he used his slider a bit more today. I'd like to see him have that pitch as well to go to at times, especially against lefties.

 

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Tony, please let us know when your radio spots are in advance (if you know) so that we can transcribe.

 

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On 4/19/2019 at 9:06 AM, Aristotelian said:

I can't remember the last time I have seen a changeup that good on the Orioles.

 

On 4/19/2019 at 9:10 AM, wildbillhiccup said:

It was probably Mussina's circle change. That pitch was nasty. 

Koji Uehara's was about as good as I've seen in an O's uniform. Even better in a Sox uniform, unfortunately. 

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4 hours ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Best things about this season so far,

1. Mancini

2. Means

3. Smith Jr

4. Nunez

You forgot Richie Martin. Not hitting yet but he really is a good SS. ML SS. Seems like he's slowing the game down now. Bordick said "poise" last night. Getting comfortable and his considerable natural talents are starting to shine. All for only $50,000 plus the ML min.

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9 minutes ago, scOtt said:

You forgot Richie Martin. Not hitting yet but he really is a good SS. ML SS. Seems like he's slowing the game down now. Bordick said "poise" last night. Getting comfortable and his considerable natural talents are starting to shine. All for only $50,000 plus the ML min.

Martin has made some very good plays, but the advanced metrics don’t seem to like him much so far.    -4 Rtot, -3 Rdrs, -0.6 UZR.    I’m happy to be patient with him, but at .172 BA he wouldn’t be up there on my list of positives.   

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36 minutes ago, scOtt said:

You forgot Richie Martin. Not hitting yet but he really is a good SS. ML SS. Seems like he's slowing the game down now. Bordick said "poise" last night. Getting comfortable and his considerable natural talents are starting to shine. All for only $50,000 plus the ML min.

He's definitely better than what we trotted out there during the dark years, but I'm not sure he'll be the starter on the next Orioles playoff team. I'm really hoping he continues to show growth at the plate.

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4 hours ago, OFFNY said:

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Tony, please let us know when your radio spots are in advance (if you know) so that we can transcribe.

 

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I heard Tony on the Fan this morning and I believe they said he would be on every Thursday with Haynie and Vinnie.  Not sure if it will always be the same time, but was around 1130am today I think....

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1 hour ago, scOtt said:

You forgot Richie Martin. Not hitting yet but he really is a good SS. ML SS. Seems like he's slowing the game down now. Bordick said "poise" last night. Getting comfortable and his considerable natural talents are starting to shine. All for only $50,000 plus the ML min.

I don't think he forgot Martin. His bat is awful. Should be a defensive replacement at best. He is currently last (#31 of 31) in MLB among SS (>50 AB) with -0.6 WAR.

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5 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

I don't think he forgot Martin. His bat is awful. Should be a defensive replacement at best. He is currently last (#31 of 31) in MLB among SS (>50 AB) with -0.6 WAR.

Remember that Martin made the jump from AA. It’s really important to watch how he trends. His bat is definitely “learning on the job” but let’s see how it progresses as time goes on. I’m surprised his defensive stats are not better, But defensive stats are counting stats-I think-and there’s very little to go on right now, so I am happy to use the eye test for the moment, and I think he generally looks great.

Still miss Jackson, though.

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Remember that Martin made the jump from AA. It’s really important to watch how he trends. His bat is definitely “learning on the job” but let’s see how it progresses as time goes on. I’m surprised his defensive stats are not better, But defensive stats are counting stats-I think-and there’s very little to go on right now, so I am happy to use the eye test for the moment, and I think he generally looks great.

Still miss Jackson, though.

Speaking of Jackson, he’s now hitting .241/.371/.310 in AAA.    People had cited his stats from his first 4-5 games, but he’s come back to Earth and is hitless in his last four games.     It will be interesting to follow how he does.   

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Speaking of Jackson, he’s now hitting .241/.371/.310 in AAA.    People had cited his stats from his first 4-5 games, but he’s come back to Earth and is hitless in his last four games.     It will be interesting to follow how he does.   

Did we lose Jackson because we weren't ready to DFA Wright? That would seem to be a mistake

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