Nick Kingham DFA’d

[millertime]

I’d like to see the O’s take a chance on him.  Highly touted prospect just a few years ago and still young.  Why not right?  Anyone else agree?

[Can_of_corn]

He is the king of ham.  Got to respect a title like that.

27 years old, FIP of 5.94, career FIP well over 5.  Walks 3.5/9 only striking out 6/9.

Meh.

[millertime]

38 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

He is the king of ham.  Got to respect a title like that.

27 years old, FIP of 5.94, career FIP well over 5.  Walks 3.5/9 only striking out 6/9.

Meh.

I don’t disagree that his numbers have been pretty atrocious but on a rebuilding team does it really hurt to give him another shot?

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, millertime said:

I don’t disagree that his numbers have been pretty atrocious but on a rebuilding team does it really hurt to give him another shot?

I said meh not pass.

I think he is very likely to not turn into anything.  The same can be said of many others on the 40 man.

[tntoriole]

You wonder if the Elias process includes getting a take as to how open guys like this are to analytic input about changing what hasn’t worked for them, learning a new pitch, etc. 

[LookinUp]

It is always worth trying to sign live arms, especially if they don’t have to be on the 40 man, which isn’t clear here to me.

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

I’ll be glad when Elias builds up this farm system, and I don’t have see a thread for every trash heap player that gets cut from another team’s 40 man roster. 

[Can_of_corn]

13 minutes ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

I’ll be glad when Elias builds up this farm system, and I don’t have see a thread for every trash heap player that gets cut from another team’s 40 man roster. 

That should lower the frequency to every third trash heap player.

[wildcard]

Kingham is 19-14, 3.87 ERA, 1.217 WHIP in 51 starts at AAA.     I would like to see Elias claim him.  He is out of options so he has to be kept on the major league roster which should not be a problem.    Chandler Shepherd is looking like he would pass through waivers to make room on the roster.

Here in a scouting report:

Assets	Owns an ideal pitchers' frame, plus the durability and stamina of an ace starter. Also boasts very good command of his fastball, as well as the reportoire to get outs regularly.
Flaws	His stuff may not be dominant enough to become a true ace at the big-league level, and he may become a bit too hittable at times. Also needs to meet expectations.
Career potential	Big, inconsistent but talented and versatile right-hander.

[El_Duderino]

Strikes me as a DD move, not an Elias one. And somehow I mean that as a compliment to both guys.

[24fps]

2 hours ago, millertime said:

I don’t disagree that his numbers have been pretty atrocious but on a rebuilding team does it really hurt to give him another shot?

Of course not.  The hallmark of every successful rebuilding team is for the GM to drink excessively then let his pet monkey throw darts at the DFA list.  This approach is considerably more analytical.

[Three Run Homer]

3 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

He is the king of ham.  Got to respect a title like that.

27 years old, FIP of 5.94, career FIP well over 5.  Walks 3.5/9 only striking out 6/9.

Meh.

I think he should go to Japan to pitch for the Nippon Ham Fighters.

[sportsfan8703]

5 hours ago, wildcard said:

Kingham is 19-14, 3.87 ERA, 1.217 WHIP in 51 starts at AAA.     I would like to see Elias claim him.  He is out of options so he has to be kept on the major league roster which should not be a problem.    Chandler Shepherd is looking like he would pass through waivers to make room on the roster.

Here in a scouting report:

Assets	Owns an ideal pitchers' frame, plus the durability and stamina of an ace starter. Also boasts very good command of his fastball, as well as the reportoire to get outs regularly.
Flaws	His stuff may not be dominant enough to become a true ace at the big-league level, and he may become a bit too hittable at times. Also needs to meet expectations.
Career potential	Big, inconsistent but talented and versatile right-hander.

Chandler Sherpherd is on the 40 man?  8.20 ERA and all. I think he’d clear waivers. 

[ScGO's]

11 hours ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

I’ll be glad when Elias builds up this farm system, and I don’t have see a thread for every trash heap player that gets cut from another team’s 40 man roster. 

Someone should just start a Waiver Wire pick up thread.  As trades start happening, I expect a lot of interesting options to start hitting waivers as contenders try to make room on their 40 man rosters for new acquisitions.  I would think Elias might be just as active on the waiver wire this July as he is in the trade market.

[sportsfan8703]

5 minutes ago, ScGO's said:

Someone should just start a Waiver Wire pick up thread.  As trades start happening, I expect a lot of interesting options to start hitting waivers as contenders try to make room on their 40 man rosters for new acquisitions.  I would think Elias might be just as active on the waiver wire this July as he is in the trade market.

We could recycle 10 pitchers on our 40 man and it wouldn’t be a big loss. I hope Elias is aggressive it contenders start dropping people to make room on their roster.