Tony’s Take pre-2019. Wow Tony you nailed it!

[Pat Kelly]

Tony’s Sep 2018 Take.

[Pat Kelly]

Except for VVM piece which maybe was a good thing. Substitute Santander,  draft AR, sprinkle in the emergence of John Means and arguably things on are slightly ahead of plan. 

[Tony-OH]

On 9/7/2019 at 12:20 PM, Pat Kelly said:

Tony’s Sep 2018 Take.

Well I don't know if I nailed it, but I'm also not sue I went out on too big of limbs on that take. Thanks though.

[Enjoy Terror]

While I understand the desire to drop salary while rebuilding, it’s a tough pill to swallow that you couldn’t get any of the top prospects from a deep Atlanta system for two and half years of Gausman?

You have to wonder if it wasn’t obvious to both clubs that Gausman just wasn’t very good.

[Redskins Rick]

20 minutes ago, Enjoy Terror said:

 

You have to wonder if it wasn’t obvious to both clubs that Gausman just wasn’t very good.

Gausman WAR after his trade, shows his lack of ability to compete at the MLB, he has tools.

[UMDTerrapins]

VVM sure hasn’t looked good so far. 

[Enjoy Terror]

1 hour ago, Redskins Rick said:

Gausman WAR after his trade, shows his lack of ability to compete at the MLB, he has tools.

I guess Casey Kotchman had tools

[Tony-OH]

1 hour ago, UMDTerrapins said:

VVM sure hasn’t looked good so far. 

That's an understatement. For once the Orioles being in flux helped them avoid that disaster. Just goes to show these Cuban players are real wildcards. His brother may be the better prospect. https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=mesa--004vic

[Frobby]

9 hours ago, Redskins Rick said:

Gausman WAR after his trade, shows his lack of ability to compete at the MLB, he has tools.

Gausman has had some pretty good years.    He certainly disappointed this year, and I haven’t followed him closely enough to know all the reasons why.   But let’s not pretend he wasn’t a competitive major league pitcher before now.   

[TonySoprano]

8 hours ago, Enjoy Terror said:

I guess Casey Kotchman had tools

and hundreds of posts from @Sports Guy

[accinfo]

9 hours ago, Frobby said:

Gausman has had some pretty good years.    He certainly disappointed this year, and I haven’t followed him closely enough to know all the reasons why.   But let’s not pretend he wasn’t a competitive major league pitcher before now.   

He is still throwing in the upper 90's.  If Gausman was non-tendered he would be a free agent pitcher they should try to sign cheap to a 1 year deal.  He seemed to like pitching for the Orioles and would be a project to see if the new information could help him.

[LA2]

I always learn from Tony's take on the team and was a fan of Pat Kelly and would have been glad to hear one of his sermons, but...I really don't see what was nailed here aside from the obvious. It was written too long before various moves that turned out to be very consequential for the 2019 season.

[Redskins Rick]

11 hours ago, Frobby said:

Gausman has had some pretty good years.    He certainly disappointed this year, and I haven’t followed him closely enough to know all the reasons why.   But let’s not pretend he wasn’t a competitive major league pitcher before now.   

Yes he did, just didnt live up to the hype, and I forgot his first season with them was only a couple of months.

 

[atomic]

12 hours ago, Frobby said:

Gausman has had some pretty good years.    He certainly disappointed this year, and I haven’t followed him closely enough to know all the reasons why.   But let’s not pretend he wasn’t a competitive major league pitcher before now.   

I think when he was drafted they said he had a major league ready fastball and change-up he just needed to develop a third pitch. I think DD said all you need to be successful in big leagues was FB and Change and rushed him up.  

[Redskins Rick]

58 minutes ago, atomic said:

I think when he was drafted they said he had a major league ready fastball and change-up he just needed to develop a third pitch. I think DD said all you need to be successful in big leagues was FB and Change and rushed him up.  

Gausman has the physical tools to do the job.

His head is a mess, and it gets the better of him.

Not the first pitcher to have this type of issue.