How long before Elias promotes the young starters at AAA?

[wildcard]

1 minute ago, foxfield said:

How long before Elias promotes the young starters at AAA?  And how will they do once promoted?  I don't know.  Personally, I think it is much later than the end of your post indicates.  I think deep down you know that.  We are all rooting for the arms to flourish.  But your own posts undercuts your wild dreams even before your first paragraph ends.  It is the single most accurate line in your post and I quote it without any modification at all:

 

The lineup the O's could field looks pretty offensive.

 

Sad but true.  The old Freudian Slip.....

It was not Freudian.  It was intentional.

[mdbdotcom]

1 hour ago, DrungoHazewood said:

Even if you just think Mountcastle is a two-win player over the next six, that's $96M in free agent terms.

And who are the other 2-3 position player prospects for this year?

[DrungoHazewood]

40 minutes ago, mdbdotcom said:

And who are the other 2-3 position player prospects for this year?

Austin Hayes and We..Ra... Yuu... that other guy.

[Can_of_corn]

46 minutes ago, mdbdotcom said:

And who are the other 2-3 position player prospects for this year?

 

5 minutes ago, DrungoHazewood said:

Austin Hayes and We..Ra... Yuu... that other guy.

I meant 3-4 overall.  So last year would have been Vlad JR, Tatis, and Robles.  That seems like a better than average class but maybe not.

[mdbdotcom]

Just now, Can_of_corn said:

 

I meant 3-4 overall.  So last year would have been Vlad JR, Tatis, and Robles.  That seems like a better than average class but maybe not.

I thought you meant on the Orioles. It didn't seem possible. Thanks for the clarification.

[Can_of_corn]

5 minutes ago, mdbdotcom said:

I thought you meant on the Orioles. It didn't seem possible. Thanks for the clarification.

I would only be willing to play those games in pretty extreme cases.  Mostly i don't think it's worth it.  

[Frobby]

1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

I would only be willing to play those games in pretty extreme cases.  Mostly i don't think it's worth it.  

Depends on the situation.     First, is the team reasonably expected to contend?    If so, there is significant potential harm to the team from leaving a player in the minors who is clearly ready to help the major league team.    That’s not really the case when a team is expected to lose 100 games with or without the player.    Second, how clear is it that the player is ready for the majors?    Third, are the things that the player still needs to work on the kinds of things that are developed better in the minors than the majors?   Fourth, how old is the player?    Fifth, are you already burning options on the player by sending him to the minors?

I’m sure there are other factors I didn’t list.   

[weams]

20 hours ago, Frobby said:

All year?   No way I see that happening.   

Likewise

[Aristotelian]

18 hours ago, wildcard said:

Full season of Hays CF

Full season of Alberto 2B

Full season of Santander RF

Full season on Mancini 1B

That is improvement at 4 of 8 defensive spots.  That should get the O's to average.

I don't think Alberto-Villar is any better Martin-Villar defensively, and we are likely losing Villar by the all star break, if not earlier.

I don't see Mancini as an upgrade over Davis.

Will be good to have some OF's who can catch the ball but I don't see that equating to average.

[weams]

6 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

Sure, I was fine when they did it with Wieters for instance.  Maybe the top 3-4 position player prospects in a given season(if they won't sign a long term deal).

Top Catchers, Top Starting Pitchers. That's it for me. 

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, weams said:

Top Catchers, Top Starting Pitchers. That's it for me. 

I wouldn't bother with a pitcher.  Too easy to send them down.

[weams]

That extra year of Manny and Schoop would not have been positive. 

[Luke-OH]

6 minutes ago, weams said:

That extra year of Manny and Schoop would not have been positive. 

Yeah it would have been, they would have garnered a bigger return in 2018. (not a fan of service time games regardless though)

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, Luke-OH said:

Yeah it would have been, they would have garnered a bigger return in 2018. (not a fan of service time games regardless though)

They couldn't get an extra year out of Manny.

The Brewers non-tendered Schoop, I'm not at all sure an extra year would have improved the return.

[Frobby]

5 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

They couldn't get an extra year out of Manny.

The Brewers non-tendered Schoop, I'm not at all sure an extra year would have improved the return.

Of course it would have.   You’d rather have potential control of a player for 2.3 years than 1.3, when you always have the option of cutting him loose at the end of any season with no penalty.    The fact that Schoop sucked for two months on the Brewers and they ended up cutting him doesn’t change that.