MASN: Four Remaining Expensive Signings

[weams]

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It doesn’t appear that the Orioles have made any progress in signing outfielder/first baseman Trey Mancini, infielder Hanser Alberto or relievers Mychal Givens and Miguel Castro. Negotiations were put on hold during the Winter Meetings in San Diego and there’s nothing new to report.

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Executive vice president/general manager Mike Elias has indicated that the Orioles won’t negotiate beyond next Friday’s deadline, taking the “file and trial” or “file and go” approach. Once the figures are exchanged, there’s nothing left to do beyond the hearing.

Asked in September about his philosophy regarding arbitration, he replied, “We’re file and go. Almost every team is now.”

https://www.masnsports.com/school-of-roch/2020/01/orioles-still-have-four-unsigned-arbitration-eligible-players.html

[weams]

Today is the deadline for exchange. 

[HowAboutThat]

Meh.

None of those guys is getting a Break the bank salary, and none of them is going to have a salary that diminishes whatever trade value they might accrue this season.

This news does kind of indicate that management is going to be a little bit draconian regarding salaries.

[weams]

I think that the Orioles are looking to cut Payroll more. 

[Tx Oriole]

1 minute ago, weams said:

I think that the Orioles are looking to cut Payroll more. 

They may be. 

[Frobby]

24 minutes ago, weams said:

Today is the deadline for exchange. 

No, it’s next Friday, not this one.   

[weams]

17 minutes ago, Frobby said:

No, it’s next Friday, not this one.   

Thank you.

[Frobby]

As to the thread title, I’m not sure I’d call these “expensive.”    The four players combined are projected by MLBTR to come in at $12 mm.     Personally, I believe it will be a bit less than that.    

[Beef Supreme]

7 minutes ago, Frobby said:

As to the thread title, I’m not sure I’d call these “expensive.”    The four players combined are projected by MLBTR to come in at $12 mm.     Personally, I believe it will be a bit less than that.    

Would you say something like...

Givens $3.5MM
Mancini $3.25MM
Alberto $1.5MM
Castro $1.25MM

@ $9.5MM total

[atomic]

25 minutes ago, Beef Supreme said:

Would you say something like...

Givens $3.5MM
Mancini $3.25MM
Alberto $1.5MM
Castro $1.25MM

@ $9.5MM total

All those salaries seem insignificant in relative terms. Also those are our best two position players and our best two relievers.   Seems that would be less than they deserve.  

These are the actual predictions (Bleir has already signed)

• Mychal Givens (4.069) – $3.2MM
• Hanser Alberto (3.085) – $1.9MM
• Miguel Castro (3.079) – $1.2MM
• Richard Bleier (3.074) – $1.1MM
• Trey Mancini (3.015) – $5.7MM

[sportsfan8703]

1 hour ago, weams said:

I think that the Orioles are looking to cut Payroll more. 

What’s the point of having role players on a 110 loss team?  Of course Mancini is different. I’d trade Alberto, Castro, and Severino, for fliers for 2023+.

[Can_of_corn]

4 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

What’s the point of having role players on a 110 loss team?  Of course Mancini is different. I’d trade Alberto, Castro, and Severino, for fliers for 2023+.

Someone has to man the positions for all the games.

[sportsfan8703]

Isn't there a reason that Wynns and Wilkerson are around?  Again, we're staring down 110.  Why not get some more lotto tickets?

Edited January 3, 2020 by sportsfan8703

[7Mo]

21 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

What’s the point of having role players on a 110 loss team?  Of course Mancini is different. I’d trade Alberto, Castro, and Severino, for fliers for 2023+.

Someone has to offer value in return. Maybe that happens by July for each.

[Beef Supreme]

45 minutes ago, atomic said:

All those salaries seem insignificant in relative terms. Also those are our best two position players and our best two relievers.   Seems that would be less than they deserve.  

These are the actual predictions (Bleir has already signed)

• Mychal Givens (4.069) – $3.2MM
• Hanser Alberto (3.085) – $1.9MM
• Miguel Castro (3.079) – $1.2MM
• Richard Bleier (3.074) – $1.1MM
• Trey Mancini (3.015) – $5.7MM

The only one that my guess was significantly lower than the cited projected arb salaries was Mancini. He had a really nice season but was it nice enough to warrant a $5MM+ raise? I haven't researched this, but isn't a first year arb ruling for $5.7MM usually reserved for premier talents like Machado? Is there a good comp for Mancini among the 2019 first-year arb players?