Should Holaday be Catching More?

[sportsfan8703]

The guy called a heck of a game today. Severino and Sisco have much better bats, but they appear to be significant behind him in calling a game, and in overall defense. With a younger pitching staff he could really help out. 

[Can_of_corn]

I thought the pitcher called the game?

[MurphDogg]

No.

[sportsfan8703]

4 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I thought the pitcher called the game?

I think Holaday called a lot of that game today. Kremer had a good moving FB today but I think Holaday gets a big assist today. 
 

Sometimes you have to sacrifice a little offense for pitching/defense. 

[Can_of_corn]

3 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

I think Holaday called a lot of that game today. Kremer had a good moving FB today but I think Holaday gets a big assist today. 
 

Sometimes you have to sacrifice a little offense for pitching/defense. 

I think that ultimately it is the pitcher that decides what pitch he will throw.

I think the team comes up with the gameplan on how to attack hitters.

 

[Philip]

No one Lauds the defense of Severino or Sisco. I agree with your point, but I understand why some are willing to sacrifice the D for the O.

Edited September 6, 2020 by Philip

[VaBird1]

Sisco and Severino should be getting a ton of at bats, he should be catching as much as needed to make that happen IMO.

[section18]

I said a week or so again I thought our Pitchers were not pitching enough innings due to our catchers who are behind the plate the most. I think Holoday shoud be behind the plate more. I hope he catches Kremers next game and a few more the rest of the season.

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, section18 said:

I said a week or so again I thought our Pitchers were not pitching enough innings due to our catchers who are behind the plate the most. I think Holoday shoud be behind the plate more. I hope he catches Kremers next game and a few more the rest of the season.

It's the catcher's fault? 

Poor framing?

I've never seen any study trying to parse data on if a pitcher's outing length is affected by who is catching them.

[sportsfan8703]

8 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

It's the catcher's fault? 

Poor framing?

I've never seen any study trying to parse data on if a pitcher's outing length is affected by who is catching them.

So why so many former Catchers that are now Managers?  

[Can_of_corn]

3 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

So why so many former Catchers that are now Managers?  

Those mangers aren't calling pitches so I'm not sure what point you are making.

Also the game has evolved.  I am sure back in the day the Catcher did a lot of the gameplanning, if any was done at all.

Have you seen any data attempting to show a link between catchers and outing length?

[sportsfan8703]

1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

Those mangers aren't calling pitches so I'm not sure what point you are making.

Also the game has evolved.  I am sure back in the day the Catcher did a lot of the gameplanning, if any was done at all.

Have you seen any data attempting to show a link between catchers and outing length?

Data doesn’t answer everything. If it did the 2012 O’s should’ve been 82-80 and not 93-69. 
 

Kremer had a live fastball, and faced a banged up Yankees lineup, but Holaday called that game. 

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, sportsfan8703 said:

Data doesn’t answer everything. If it did the 2012 O’s should’ve been 82-80 and not 93-69. 
 

Kremer had a live fastball, and faced a banged up Yankees lineup, but Holaday called that game. 

And Kremer threw the pitches.  So, at the end of the day, Kremer decided what he was going to throw.

[sportsfan8703]

Kremer executed the pitches. Holaday called the game. 

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Kremer executed the pitches. Holaday called the game. 

It was Kermer's decision what pitch he would throw.

I'm reasonably sure Holaday isn't coming up with the gameplan to attack hitters.  Have you heard that he is?  The O's have an analytics department that does that.