Any chance that the O’s are in on Ha-Seong Kim

[Roll Tide]

We know Peter never participated in the posting player process.

Any chance Elias can get the approval and can justify the investment in this guy. Looks to be the next good Korean ball player and he’s only 25. This is the kind of player that I’d want them to take a chance on. And we have a hole at 3B.
 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/10/ha-seong-kim-shortstop-posted-kiwoom-heroes-kbo-mlb.html

[Can_of_corn]

3 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

We know Peter never participated in the posting player process.

Any chance Elias can get the approval and can justify the investment in this guy. Looks to be the next good Korean ball player and he’s only 25. This is the kind of player that I’d want them to take a chance on. And we have a hole at 3B.
 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/10/ha-seong-kim-shortstop-posted-kiwoom-heroes-kbo-mlb.html

I read about him a few days ago. 

Seems like a very nice player that could help a team and yes, he's young.

I think there is close to zero chance the O's are in on him.

[LookinUp]

14 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I think there is close to zero chance the O's are in on him.

I just have a feeling that payroll can't be added this offseason. They need fans. He does make sense though.

[Can_of_corn]

6 minutes ago, LookinUp said:

I just have a feeling that payroll can't be added this offseason. They need fans. He does make sense though.

I just have a feeling that payroll will be reduced this offseason.  They don't need fans.  He would improve the team.

[Sports Guy]

No

[fansince1988]

No. Not a chance. Zero. 

[OriolesMagic83]

24 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I just have a feeling that payroll will be reduced this offseason.  They don't need fans.  He would improve the team.

I just can't understand the massive pressure the O's are under to cut payroll.  I believe their payroll is either 29th or 30th in the majors.  The only major contracts they have for 2021 are Davis $23 mill and Cobb $15 mill.  That's $38 mill total on the books.

It gets better for the O's.  $7 mill of Davis's salary for 2021 and $4.5 mill of Cobb's salary for 2021 are deferred.  That's only $26.5 mill on the books.  From cot's baseball contracts: 

if Cobb does not pitch 130 innings in 2020, an additional $5.5M of 2021 salary is deferred, to be paid $1.75M annually each 11/30, 2033-35

So, that's a total of $21 million on the books for next year.  Please someone explain how the O's are in a finiancial bind with all the national TV money, licensing money, internet fees, local TV money, money redistributed for small markets, without even counting any money from in person attendance. 

A case can be made that some of the clubs who are near the luxury tax and don't have huge revenue streams like the Yankees and Dodgers could have cashflow problems, but I can't see any reason the O's would.

 

 

[Can_of_corn]

My "shtick" such as it is, is the idea that while the team is profitable ownership wants to draw even more revenue from it.

[tarheeloriole]

How much do you think he ends up signing for? If its in our range somehow, I think we should go for it. I've never watched the KBO so I can't attest to the pitching but the guy has a great swing and as long as he can adjust I think the power will play. The guy is electric

 

[Moose Milligan]

No.

[Moose Milligan]

Just now, tarheeloriole said:

How much do you think he ends up signing for? If its in our range somehow, 

 

What range?

[OriolesMagic83]

9 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

My "shtick" such as it is, is the idea that while the team is profitable ownership wants to draw even more revenue from it.

I hope that's not the case.  Even if it is, it is more profitable to have a few "stars" like Mancini or Brian Roberts an example on their past O's teams, to increase revenue and profit. 

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

What range?

Somewhere between league minimum and a cool million dollars. 

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, OriolesMagic83 said:

I hope that's not the case.  Even if it is, it is more profitable to have a few "stars" like Mancini or Brian Roberts an example on their past O's teams, to increase revenue and profit. 

Is it?

How many fans came out to see Mancini in 2019? 

 

[tarheeloriole]

11 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

What range?

range in the sense of what we would be willing to spend in a hypothetical world where we would be willing to sign a player above league minimum I guess