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BP had an article on him this morning. https://www.baseballprospectus.com/news/article/73914/bullpen-session-king-of-fastball-rise/ The bit most informational to me was about the "contortion

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What Bautista did in that White Sox series was just crazy.  Came in on Tuesday with runners on 1st and 3rd and only one out in the 8th and escaped that jam, getting five outs to close out the win.   T

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He wasn't as good tonight, but his debut was filthy enough to get the Statcast guys writing about him as a top opening weekend thing.   Link at bottom has some videos of the 1-2 sequence to get Wander

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5 hours ago, dystopia said:

No. Don’t think we’ll ever see anyone compare to Britton’s 2016 season. That was another world. 

Exactly! What Britton did in 2016 was unheard of. 8.8% FB rate, 0.54 ERA, 0.84 WHIP, and 4 ER allowed all season. I’ve never seen a season like it. 

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4 hours ago, waroriole said:

Exactly! What Britton did in 2016 was unheard of. 8.8% FB rate, 0.54 ERA, 0.84 WHIP, and 4 ER allowed all season. I’ve never seen a season like it. 

The pitch he was using to dominate was a mid-90's splitter. Back then it was very rare, but now quite common. I'm glad we reaped the benefits of it before the trend he started took hold!

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On 9/14/2022 at 8:53 AM, LA2 said:

The pitch he was using to dominate was a mid-90's splitter. Back then it was very rare, but now quite common. I'm glad we reaped the benefits of it before the trend he started took hold!

Double take.... Z Britton was throwing a splitter? (rush to interwebs to check memory and confirm)

Britton's master pitch was a sinker (2-seam fastball), not a spilt finger fastball:

Britton is a left-handed visitor who has never closed out a World Series, so he is unlike Rivera in the obvious ways. Yet in his manner of dominating the late innings, Britton is probably the closest thing to Rivera since Rivera retired in 2013. He does it all with one devastating pitch.

For Britton, the pitch is the sinker, a 96-mile-per-hour anvil that hitters simply cannot lift. According to Fangraphs, Britton’s ground-ball rate (79.7 percent) is by far the best in the majors — a full 15 percentage points better than the next-closest pitcher with at least 50 innings, Boston’s Brad Ziegler.

Britton throws the sinker almost all the time. Like Rivera, the master of the cutter, he stymies opponents with a pitch they know is coming but simply cannot handle.

Source: NY Times. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/26/sports/baseball/zach-britton-baltimore-orioles-cy-young-award-chances.html

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1 hour ago, Jagwar said:

Lee Smith was a beast. Bautista definitely has the same potential for intimidation. And he has Adley as a battery mate for years. Hard to believe he is a rookie. 

To be clear, Bautista’s 2022 season is much better than the season Smith had for us, even though Smith led the league in saves, was an all-star and finished fifth in the Cy Young voting.  

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9 hours ago, Frobby said:

To be clear, Bautista’s 2022 season is much better than the season Smith had for us, even though Smith led the league in saves, was an all-star and finished fifth in the Cy Young voting.  

I was talking about Smith's whole career, but I catch what you're saying

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I was talking about Smith's whole career, but I catch what you're saying

Yeah, I figured.  I was just pointing out how good Bautista has been.  The fact that he wasn’t our closer until Lopez got traded kind of obscures what a good season he’s having.  

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To be clear, Bautista’s 2022 season is much better than the season Smith had for us, even though Smith led the league in saves, was an all-star and finished fifth in the Cy Young voting.  

Talk about wacky award voting.  That was a different era in a lot of ways.  Lee Smith's one year in Baltimore was the strike-shortened 1994, but he pitched 38.1 innings.  Yes, he had 33 saves, but allowed 45 baserunners, 16 runs, six homers and had a 3.29 ERA.  Aside from the saves that would be like the 5th-best reliever in the 2022 Orioles' pen. Yet he was 5th in the Cy Young voting and got some down-ballot (14th place) MVP votes. 

To be fair to the Cy Young voters, 5th place was 1% of the vote, so probably one guy threw him on the ballot.  To be very harsh to the MVP voters he finished ahead of Mike Mussina who had a lower ERA in five times as many innings.  Was in a virtual tie with Wade Boggs (.433 OBP), Will Clark (.932 OPS), and Rafael Palmeiro (.942 OPS). For 38 pretty good innings where he allowed runs in six of his last nine appearances and blew five saves.

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Talk about wacky award voting.  That was a different era in a lot of ways.  Lee Smith's one year in Baltimore was the strike-shortened 1994, but he pitched 38.1 innings.  Yes, he had 33 saves, but allowed 45 baserunners, 16 runs, six homers and had a 3.29 ERA.  Aside from the saves that would be like the 5th-best reliever in the 2022 Orioles' pen. Yet he was 5th in the Cy Young voting and got some down-ballot (14th place) MVP votes. 

To be fair to the Cy Young voters, 5th place was 1% of the vote, so probably one guy threw him on the ballot.  To be very harsh to the MVP voters he finished ahead of Mike Mussina who had a lower ERA in five times as many innings.  Was in a virtual tie with Wade Boggs (.433 OBP), Will Clark (.932 OPS), and Rafael Palmeiro (.942 OPS). For 38 pretty good innings where he allowed runs in six of his last nine appearances and blew five saves.

This is a good summary.  I was shocked to read he got 5th place because I remembered him being pretty good but not THAT good.  

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This is a good summary.  I was shocked to read he got 5th place because I remembered him being pretty good but not THAT good.  

I’d forgotten it was the strike year.  I guess the writers who voted on it kind of mailed it in.  But 33 saves is at least a bit more impressive when you realize they only played 112 games.  That’s the equivalent of about 48 saves over a full 162 game season. 

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