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1 hour ago, Bahama O's Fan said:

Akin? Hall? Can't they be long men in a jam?

Hall in not a long man at this point with his control issues.   Akin has gone 3 innings twice in 39 appearance this season.

Akin pitched 2 innings yesterday.  He came in with two runners on and allowed both to score then allowed a 2 run homer the next inning. 

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Yesterday would have been a perfect chance to give Hall 3-4 low pressure innings, but he threw 30 pitches (1.1 innings) on Friday. Really wish they were bringing him along like they used to do with young starters in the '70s. Be a long man for a season and then graduate to the rotation. 

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1 hour ago, wildcard said:

Hall in not a long man at this point with his control issues.   Akin has gone 3 innings twice in 39 appearance this season.

Akin pitched 2 innings yesterday.  He came in with two runners on and allowed both to score then allowed a 2 run homer the next inning. 

So he didn’t pitch well.  That can happen to any long man. 

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27 minutes ago, ShoelesJoe said:

Yesterday would have been a perfect chance to give Hall 3-4 low pressure innings, but he threw 30 pitches (1.1 innings) on Friday. Really wish they were bringing him along like they used to do with young starters in the '70s. Be a long man for a season and then graduate to the rotation. 

That’s Hall’s fault. If he was more effective he would be starting games. 

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18 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

With the extra roster spot we may be able to get by with 1+ inning guys. Zimmerman will be eligible to come back in a few days. Vallimont is on the 40 man. If someone is needed in emergency situation, you could use Wells or Voth and then bring up Vallimont to start a game.

Vallimont has a 5.30 ERA at AAA.  He can't even get AAA bats out.   I don't know why they would promote him.   I don't think he is long for the O's organization.

After 27 major league starts Zimmerman does not seem to be able get his ERA under 5.00.  Others are passing him by.

Someone is likely to go on the IL and either Watkins or Baumann will be recalled is my guess.

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57 minutes ago, wildcard said:

Vallimont has a 5.30 ERA at AAA.  He can't even get AAA bats out.   I don't know why they would promote him.   I don't think he is long for the O's organization.

After 27 major league starts Zimmerman does not seem to be able get his ERA under 5.00.  Others are passing him by.

Someone is likely to go on the IL and either Watkins or Baumann will be recalled is my guess.

Baumann back makes it moot but I was just looking at options on the 40 man. If long man is needed again it appears the depth chart is something like Baumann, Zimmerman, Vallimont. The latter two would be purely to eat innings although I haven't given up hope on Zimmerman yet. He has been solid at AAA and we've seen guys progress with O's coaching. 

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2 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

Baumann back makes it moot but I was just looking at options on the 40 man. If long man is needed again it appears the depth chart is something like Baumann, Zimmerman, Vallimont. The latter two would be purely to eat innings although I haven't given up hope on Zimmerman yet. He has been solid at AAA and we've seen guys progress with O's coaching. 

Zimmerman is the only one of the three to show an ability to get ML hitters out. 

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26 minutes ago, waroriole said:

Zimmerman is the only one of the three to show an ability to get ML hitters out. 

Baumann just threw 5 innings on Monday and if Gunnar had not messed up two double play balls  playing 2nd he would have only given up one run.  I want to see more of that.

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