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1 hour ago, Sports Guy said:

You won’t know this until next year.

Actually, we won’t know the cutoff for 2023 until after the 2025 season is complete.  But it’s never been less than 2 years, 115 days, and we are already below that.  Super 2 should not be any factor at this point. 

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I know this is not the point of the thread, but I don't get all the Cowser/Stowers comparisons. I never thought Stowers would be more than a role player. I expect Cowser to be a cornerstone of the tea

Bemorewins
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You pose some very interesting questions and scenarios. I guess for me, the two shouldn’t be lumped together as prospects. One is in a higher class of prospect than the other.  IMO - While C

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We need a spark. Cowser should be our RF against RH SP. Westburg should play over over Mateo versus RH SP and over Frazier/Gunnar over LH SP. 

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People really want their to be some sort of conspiracy for Cowser and Westburg not being up. Honestly if Cowser hadn't been injured when Mullins went down, he probably comes up and the Orioles don't sign Hicks. But, the Orioles don't seem to want to recall prospects to be the 25th-26th man (the Lester role), and other then that, the team is 18 games above .500, O'Hearn is hitting, Frazier is hitting, Urias is hitting, Hicks is playing well. Why mess with something that's working? and bench guys that are playing well? 

I get that we don't think that some of those guys will keep that up, and we want to see the prospects we keep hearing about, and they're killing it at Triple-A...but the major league team goal is to win, and it's currently winning. You don't bench guys doing well. 

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You aren’t completely taking anyone out..you are just taking away at bats from those who should have them taken away.  

Well by definition you are taking 2 of your field players off of the roster, and I don't think the Orioles are calling up Westburg and Cowser at this point in the season unless they plan to play them most days (now in August they seem to be more willing to do that). BTW Frazier has a .743 OPS against RHP, now he probably shouldn't be playing against LHP

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Really we should call Westburg up to replace the 3rd C on 6/15 because we're facing a LH SP.  However, I think we the off days, and we're only facing one LH SP in the Cubs series, I could see us playing it extra safe with the Super Two deadline and calling up Westburg on 6/22 for the home series versus the Mariners. 

Mountcastle needs some time off to get his vertigo straightened out then we should start him out in the FCL on a slow rehab. 

Cowser is a different story.  He needs to prove he's back 100% healthy and hitting.  Then I see him coming up and taking Mckenna's positon, with Santander moving into a 1B/DH role more.   

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9 minutes ago, seak05 said:

Well by definition you are taking 2 of your field players off of the roster, and I don't think the Orioles are calling up Westburg and Cowser at this point in the season unless they plan to play them most days (now in August they seem to be more willing to do that). BTW Frazier has a .743 OPS against RHP, now he probably shouldn't be playing against LHP

They can easily play them 4-5 days a week and taking off 2 players off the current roster is pretty easy.

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10 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

They can easily play them 4-5 days a week and taking off 2 players off the current roster is pretty easy.

Westburg should be playing 2B over Frazier versus LHP.  We could trot out an all RH lineup.  

vs LH SP

1. Hicks CF

2. Adley DH

3. Santa 1B

4. Hays LF

5. Westburg 2B

6. Urias  3B

7. McCann C

8. Mckenna RF

9. Mateo SS

Gunnar, Frazier, O'Hearn, Lester

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53 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

And Mateo

Trading Mateo is silly.  If he loses his job to one of the prospects fine but he is  absolutely perfect in a bench role on a team looking to contend.  Who wouldn't want to have his speed and defense available late in a game?

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Trading Mateo is silly.  If he loses his job to one of the prospects fine but he is  absolutely perfect in a bench role on a team looking to contend.  Who wouldn't want to have his speed and defense available late in a game?

Not trade..bench 

However, if he can be part of a package a starter, in trading him without hesitation.

 

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28 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Westburg should be playing 2B over Frazier versus LHP.  We could trot out an all RH lineup.  

vs LH SP

1. Hicks CF

2. Adley DH

3. Santa 1B

4. Hays LF

5. Westburg 2B

6. Urias  3B

7. McCann C

8. Mckenna RF

9. Mateo SS

Gunnar, Frazier, O'Hearn, Lester

I know that Gunnar struggled to hit LHP early on. But do you really want to make him a part time/platoon player, given what you have seen him do this past week? What I see is a budding player with star (maybe even) superstar potential figuring things out at this level. Is that something worth messing with?

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