Enrique Bradfield 2023

[Frobby]

7 minutes ago, Jim'sKid26 said:

The hit tool is not comparable between these two guys. Crews is significantly more talented in that regard. That might explain the rapid and aggressive jump. 

I wasn’t trying to compare the two.  Obviously there’s a huge difference between being the no. 2 pick and being the no. 17 pick.   It’s just interesting seeing the Nats be that aggressive.  

[clapdiddy]

10 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Just to be clear, at age 21 Hamilton had a .410 OBP between A+ and AA.  So, OBP success even at those levels doesn’t necessarily translate into a good OBP in the majors.  

Based on his SEC performance, I expect Bradfield to have more power than Hamilton.   Hopefully he’ll have enough where pitchers have to respect it and not just throw the ball down the middle and date him to hit it.  But we’ll see.
 

Well, thanks for pointing that out, Frobby.   I didn't dig deeper (or at all!) into Hamilton's MiLB numbers.   I'll give @brucewayne a little leeway.    

[brucewayne]

9 minutes ago, clapdiddy said:

Well, thanks for pointing that out, Frobby.   I didn't dig deeper (or at all!) into Hamilton's MiLB numbers.   I'll give @brucewayne a little leeway.    

The MLB average OBP is .320

 

Saying Bradfield will OBP .350 against big league pitchers is a HUGE ask. 

[Hank Scorpio]

1 hour ago, brucewayne said:

The MLB average OBP is .320

 

Saying Bradfield will OBP .350 against big league pitchers is a HUGE ask. 

The organization has quite an affinity for developing strike zone discipline and swing decisions. If he's gonna OBP .350 anywhere, it's here. 

He doesn't need to be much at the dish to have lots of value. 

[brucewayne]

18 minutes ago, Hank Scorpio said:

The organization has quite an affinity for developing strike zone discipline and swing decisions. If he's gonna OBP .350 anywhere, it's here. 

He doesn't need to be much at the dish to have lots of value. 

Not saying it cant possibly happen. A .350OBP in the MLB is a massive ask.

[Hank Scorpio]

8 minutes ago, brucewayne said:

Not saying it cant possibly happen. A .350OBP in the MLB is a massive ask.

So are 75 steals and elite centerfield defense.

Okay 75 may be aggressive but he's going to be a problem on the bases and is way more likely to get on base than a guy like Mateo. Plus he's gonna cover 3/4 of the Earth out there.

He'll be valuable. High floor.

Edited August 21, 2023 by Hank Scorpio

[Three Run Homer]

56 minutes ago, brucewayne said:

Not saying it cant possibly happen. A .350OBP in the MLB is a massive ask.

If the O's didn't think he could have a .350 OBP in the majors, they wouldn't have drafted him in the first round.

[TheWall]

3 minutes ago, Three Run Homer said:

If the O's didn't think he could have a .350 OBP in the majors, they wouldn't have drafted him in the first round.

Mullins has 1 season above a .350 OBP. I'm sure we hope he can do that, but he can still be a very good MLB player if he has a .330 - .340 OBP with elite speed and defense. 

[Hallas]

1 hour ago, Three Run Homer said:

If the O's didn't think he could have a .350 OBP in the majors, they wouldn't have drafted him in the first round.

 

Ehhh I understand why someone would be hesitant to pencil him in for a .350 OBP with about 50 pro plate appearances.  Vlad Guerrero Jr was supposed to be a perennial all-star and his minor league track record was good enough to make him a #1 overall prospect, and look at where he's at now.  Everyone is drafted off of potential and yeah his potential is someone that can get on base more than 35% of the time, but it's tough to *expect* that, given the amount of pro experience he currently has and the overall success rate of players around his draft position.

 

I think we should hope for more but it doesn't always work out.

Edited August 21, 2023 by Hallas

[Three Run Homer]

5 hours ago, Hallas said:

 

Ehhh I understand why someone would be hesitant to pencil him in for a .350 OBP with about 50 pro plate appearances.  Vlad Guerrero Jr was supposed to be a perennial all-star and his minor league track record was good enough to make him a #1 overall prospect, and look at where he's at now.  Everyone is drafted off of potential and yeah his potential is someone that can get on base more than 35% of the time, but it's tough to *expect* that, given the amount of pro experience he currently has and the overall success rate of players around his draft position.

 

I think we should hope for more but it doesn't always work out.

You can never be sure that a prospect will perform at a high level, but you don't draft someone in the first round whose primary tools are speed, defense and OBP if you think it would be a "massive ask" for them to have an above average OBP.   They didn't draft him hoping that he someday might turn into Juan Pierre; they drafted him hoping that he someday might turn into Kenny Lofton.  

[brucewayne]

6 hours ago, Three Run Homer said:

You can never be sure that a prospect will perform at a high level, but you don't draft someone in the first round whose primary tools are speed, defense and OBP if you think it would be a "massive ask" for them to have an above average OBP.   They didn't draft him hoping that he someday might turn into Juan Pierre; they drafted him hoping that he someday might turn into Kenny Lofton.  

People in hell want ice water too. Everybody wants their 1st round pick to be a superstar. Doesnt mean it's likely. 

[Tony-OH]

On 8/20/2023 at 9:56 PM, Paul in Virginia said:

 

 

Not the best route but definitely has the closing speed to make up for it.

[Sports Guy]

Dylan Crews already sent to AA. Honestly, that kid may not need any MiL time. 
 

So many of this years draft picks are on a faster track for whatever reason. Bradfield should get out of Delmarva. 

[Tony-OH]

15 hours ago, brucewayne said:

Not saying it cant possibly happen. A .350OBP in the MLB is a massive ask.

.320 is the average MLB OBP so yes, .350 would be a well above average OBP at the major league level. It's way too early to know whether Bradford will be able to do that or not. So far he's obviously shown the ability to draw walks against low minors pitchers.

I'd like to see him moved quickly, similar to the path Fabian took this year, but his production at each level will decide that.

 

[LookinUp]

1 hour ago, Sports Guy said:

Dylan Crews already sent to AA. Honestly, that kid may not need any MiL time. 
 

So many of this years draft picks are on a faster track for whatever reason. Bradfield should get out of Delmarva. 

Assuming production, they'll move him quickly, but I'm not sure why Dylan Crews is mentioned anywhere in this thread. He's a stud on a different level than most recent draft picks.