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said. “There’s just a lot of good things that can happen. So we just want to see what he looks like. He’s going to be treated in this major-league camp not like a prospect where we’re kind of having fun having him in camp for the experience of it, but like a guy trying to make the team.”
 

You guys! They’re going to treat him not like a rookie having fun at spring training, but like a guy trying to make the team! 
 

What does it mean?!?!?

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Jagwar
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I'll believe it once Urias/Mateo are traded or DFA'd

Aristotelian
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"Definitely a strong possibility" means nothing to me. I don't think it will be five months but I don't think it will be opening day, and I don't read anything into Elias's statement.

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As close to the vest as Elias is, I don’t see how this benefits him unless it is the truth.

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1 minute ago, Moose Milligan said:

said. “There’s just a lot of good things that can happen. So we just want to see what he looks like. He’s going to be treated in this major-league camp not like a prospect where we’re kind of having fun having him in camp for the experience of it, but like a guy trying to make the team.”
 

You guys! They’re going to treat him not like a rookie having fun at spring training, but like a guy trying to make the team! 
 

What does it mean?!?!?

Pretty self-explanatory.  Have the second cup of coffee.

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13 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

said. “There’s just a lot of good things that can happen. So we just want to see what he looks like. He’s going to be treated in this major-league camp not like a prospect where we’re kind of having fun having him in camp for the experience of it, but like a guy trying to make the team.”
 

You guys! They’re going to treat him not like a rookie having fun at spring training, but like a guy trying to make the team! 
 

What does it mean?!?!?

What is your exact point with this line of confusing posts?

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54 minutes ago, wildcard said:

I think Mountcastle and O'Hearn go before Mayo.  Mayo could be a 35- 40 HR guy.

That’s not the point.   Mayo might bring you players in return that Mountcastle and O’Hearn will not.  So you have to decide if there is something you need more than a potential 35-40 home run guy, given the other players who also can play at Mayo’s spot.   

This idea that a team can never give up a top 10-20 prospect is just wrong.  It happens fairly frequently.  But the player(s) received in exchange also have to be quite valuable, at a spot where there’s a big need.  
 

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5 minutes ago, Frobby said:

That’s not the point.   Mayo might bring you players in return that Mountcastle and O’Hearn will not.  So you have to decide if there is something you need more than a potential 35-40 home run guy, given the other players who also can play at Mayo’s spot.   

This idea that a team can never give up a top 10-20 prospect is just wrong.  It happens fairly frequently.  But the player(s) received in exchange also have to be quite valuable, at a spot where there’s a big need.  
 

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I of course do not know more than anybody else about this topic, but I wonder if the Orioles post season performance or lack thereof is shaking things up,  and inserting a bit more urgency than previously would have been the case into a decision like this?   It is human nature to want to make up for our failures ASAP.  I remember in my college baseball playing if I had a bad AB, I could hardly wait to bat again, to make up for that poor last AB.  So I hope Holiday makes the  starting lineup as soon as possible in 2024.  

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Baseball America said Holliday could be a plus SS or maybe a double plus 2B.  Let’s dream on him having a great spring and making the team.  How about this lineup?

2B Holliday

C Rutschman

SS Henderson

RF Santander

1B Mountcastle

DH Kjerstad

LF Hays

CF Mullins

3B Westburg 

Not a murderers row but pretty solid 1-9.

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19 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

Baseball America said Holliday could be a plus SS or maybe a double plus 2B.  Let’s dream on him having a great spring and making the team.  How about this lineup?

2B Holliday

C Rutschman

SS Henderson

RF Santander

1B Mountcastle

DH Kjerstad

LF Hays

CF Mullins

3B Westburg 

Not a murderers row but pretty solid 1-9.

I doubt Holliday would begin the year batting leadoff even if he made the team, but he well might finish the year there.  

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