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Frobby
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Ah, another year of second guessing the lineup every single day!  

Fiver6565
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I don’t know why people keep lumping O’Hearn in on posts like this. The guy had one of the few over .800 OPS on the team last year. He’s not remotely the problem. 

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I heard that he was initially scheduled to be DH, but told Hyde, “if Burnes doesn’t want me to catch him, then I don’t wanna play!”  Then he was seen softly sobbing in a corner of the locker room.   

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1 minute ago, Malike said:

We haven't had to worry about this for about a month.

True, but I'm not too worried about Gunnar at the plate. In the field, though...

Gunnar also would ideally have better protection than Adley can frankly provide. Not that Adley is a dud, but I don't think many pitchers are scared of pitching around Gunnar for fear of Adley being up next.

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3 minutes ago, bpilktree67 said:

You can’t look at WAr because most the guys in the lineup tonight are part time players so they won’t have much WAR.   The Guardians guys are full time players that are at least good defense guys so will have higher WAR from that. 
 

There offensive game though is terrible  Ops+ There catchers Hedges is 23(yes 23) and Naylor is 74,  There SS Rocchino is 73, and 2nd baseman  Gimenez is 78.   McCann at 75 is better then there starter at 74.  Slater is 60 ( they should have upgraded this position I agree there). Jimenez is 81 but does hit lefties well and has hit good in past.   

He's got a 730 OPS over 50 PA.

If I got a guy that can't stay healthy, field or run I want him to mash more than that.

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7 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

So you wanted Pillar ? 

I would have taken him or few other guys.  It didn’t have to be center fielder because Cowser can play there so a right handed center fielder or left fielder that can hit some would be fine.  Derek Hill who got released has been ok this year.  The Marlins claimed him but why not offer trade before deadline.  I honestly thought they got Slater just to get Soto and would eat his contract or send him to Norfolk.  

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I think the only surprise there is Eloy Jimenez instead of Mountcastle.    There could be competition between those two over AB’s against RHP.   May the better hitter win

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1 minute ago, Three Run Homer said:

Mountcastle sits.  

As he should right now vs a lot of righties. This lineup with Mayo at DH and Westy at 3B when he’s back is absurd. Love it.

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12 minutes ago, Baltimorecuse said:

All of baseball is universally unimpressed by that theory.  

Not sure where you got that stat but Ohtani, Judge, and Witt Jr all 3 best hitter in baseball bat 1-2 in the lineup.

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