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It's very frustrating to me the way Hyde uses the bullpen. I see other teams use some of their relievers for more than a single inning all the time. Akin throws 8 pitches to easily retire the side in the 8th inning but he can't come back out for the 9th inning???  Last year this strategy of only one inning at a time frequently cost the bullpen in having fresh options available. If a guy is on a roll like Akin clearly was keep him in! 

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DirtyBird
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The flyout was hit barely over 300’ and had an xBA of .010

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Why was Kimbrel not available today?

sportsfan8703
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Elias chose not to sign another RH RP. The heat is on Elias. 

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3 minutes ago, phxosfan said:

It's very frustrating to me the way Hyde uses the bullpen. I see other teams use some of their relievers for more than a single inning all the time. Akin throws 8 pitches to easily retire the side in the 8th inning but he can't come back out for the 9th inning???  Last year this strategy of only one inning at a time frequently cost the bullpen in having fresh options available. If a guy is on a roll like Akin clearly was keep him in! 

Same as last game, Connor Joe hits LHP well and Akin has poor splits. Hyde put Cano in perfect position to win and he pitched like crap. Hyde managed it beautifully IMO.

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Oh, to have a time machine so you could tell OH last summer - or even two weeks ago - that someone was going to start a thread complaining that Keegan Akin was removed from a ballgame for a rested Yennier Cano in a save situation.

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Heat as in he messed up. Our bullpen is essentially where it was pre Fuji/Webb. With Kimbrel replacing Bautista. Elias didn’t think there would be a drop off?

He could’ve gotten a RHP for prospects. Not that it fixes Cano today. Cano has to perform. But longterm that is where we are. We’re pre pre Fuji/Webb/Bautista injury. 

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4 minutes ago, Moshagge3 said:

Oh, to have a time machine so you could tell OH last summer - or even two weeks ago - that someone was going to start a thread complaining that Keegan Akin was removed from a ballgame for a rested Yennier Cano in a save situation.

This is not just about today. It is the philosophy not keeping a pitcher in a game when he is throwing very well. As for Cano, he has already pitched in 5 games this year and the rock is no MOUNTAIN! I would be saying the same thing if Cano threw 8 pitches and looked dominant in the eighth inning since Kimbrel was not available.

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10 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Heat as in he messed up. Our bullpen is essentially where it was pre Fuji/Webb. With Kimbrel replacing Bautista. Elias didn’t think there would be a drop off?

He could’ve gotten a RHP for prospects. Not that it fixes Cano today. Cano has to perform. But longterm that is where we are. We’re pre pre Fuji/Webb/Bautista injury. 

Maybe the Mets will trade us and his 99 mph sinker?   

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2 minutes ago, DirtyBird said:

We scored 2 runs.

Half the lineup looks lost at the plate.

You put the pen in high leverage situations every game and bad things happen.

This is correct. It would be nice if we had more real ML hitters in the batting order like Pittsburg does.

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4 minutes ago, phxosfan said:

This is not just about today. It is the philosophy not keeping a pitcher in a game when he is throwing very well. As for Cano, he has already pitched in 5 games this year and the rock is no MOUNTAIN! I would be saying the same thing if Cano threw 8 pitches and looked dominant in the eighth inning since Kimbrel was not available.

Yes. We are currently where we were before the Fuji trade. Aka needing a RH SU man. Not to mention the drop of from Kimbrel to Bautista in extra innings. 

Elias obviously didn’t have payroll bucks to add to the pen. So he should’ve spent prospect bucks for relievers instead of leaving them in AAA for no Value.

We could’ve gotten a reliever for some combo of Kjerstad/Norby/Stowers.

Elias messed up. To be family friendly. 

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