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Cubs, M's swap Milton Bradley for Carlos Silva

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How do you guys see this from a Cubs perspective? Most Cubs fans are pretty upset and I can't say I blame them. Carlos Silva is a tough pill to swallow.

There is a little bit of financial releif, but it really only boils down to about 5 million over 2 years. It doesn't even pay for the crappy contract we just gave out to John Grabow.

Most Cubs fans feel like a laughing stock after this deal. Agree?

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How do you guys see this from a Cubs perspective? Most Cubs fans are pretty upset and I can't say I blame them. Carlos Silva is a tough pill to swallow.

There is a little bit of financial releif, but it really only boils down to about 5 million over 2 years. It doesn't even pay for the crappy contract we just gave out to John Grabow.

Most Cubs fans feel like a laughing stock after this deal. Agree?

Bad move. Bad move. Bad move.

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How do you guys see this from a Cubs perspective? Most Cubs fans are pretty upset and I can't say I blame them. Carlos Silva is a tough pill to swallow.

There is a little bit of financial releif, but it really only boils down to about 5 million over 2 years. It doesn't even pay for the crappy contract we just gave out to John Grabow.

Most Cubs fans feel like a laughing stock after this deal. Agree?

Channeling my inner Cub's fan tells me that at the beginning of last year, I was enthralled to have the kind of numbers Bradley put up with the Rangers in 2008, playing on my beloved Cubbies. But when the wheels began to fall off midway through the year, Bradley became the poster boy for everything that was wrong.

Removing this cancer from the clubhouse was paramount to any other move the 2010 Cubs would have to make, regardless of who was coming back to us!

As fans of player 'X', we often find it difficult to separate the stats they put up from the personality itself and the destructive properties it may possess. Milton Bradley may be a quality player with a solid, middle-of-the-order bat, but his thermonuclear demeanor has soured a lot of GM's, players and fans alike.

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This is an absolutely beautiful move by the Mariners.

Good move if you like poison. You guys must like trouble. Either that or you think everything is numbers.

Way, way back before the Wall St. meltdown took his title away, this guy was the original Toxic Asset.

The M's will regret this. Every team does. We just don't know exactly how long it's gonna take.

When that happens, I wonder which GM will be dumb enough to be next in line...

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Good move if you like poison. You guys must like trouble. Either that or you think everything is numbers.

Way, way back before the Wall St. meltdown took his title away, this guy was the original Toxic Asset.

The M's will regret this. Every team does. We just don't know exactly how long it's gonna take.

When that happens, I wonder which GM will be dumb enough to be next in line...

It absolutely is a game of numbers. Chicago did poorly last season not because Milton Bradley is a nutcase but rather because he forgot how to hit for power, the starting rotation was hit with injuries, and Soriano, Soto, and Fontenot had awful seasons.

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In my opinion, the only con here for the Mariners is that they'll likely have Bradley for 2 years. When a team gets on the cusp like they are, in that division, the time is right to make calculated risks. While Bradley could drag the entire team down the toilet, he could also lead them to a pennant.

Very high risk, VERY high reward.

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The Mariners will be sorry when they lose Bradley after he breaks his leg in an argument with the hot dog vendor who gave him ketchup when he didn't ask for it.

Getting a hot dog while he is supposed to be playing defense? What is he a Ravens defensive back???

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