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hoosiers Hangout Grand Counsel

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No matter what they do, not offering him arbitration is and was idiotic.

You are funny. How this plays out is still to be determined.

If AM will have saved $1M-$2M by pursuing the path he has with Koji, it will not be the first time his idiotic decisions have saved $Ms from an opinion of yours.

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You are funny. How this plays out is still to be determined.

If AM will have saved $1M-$2M by pursuing the path he has with Koji, it will not be the first time his idiotic decisions have saved $Ms from an opinion of yours.

When, under AM, has the O's saving money equaled the O's spending that money elsewhere?

I would not be suprised if a west coast team like the A's or the Mariners to swoop in and grab Koji.

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You are funny. How this plays out is still to be determined.

If AM will have saved $1M-$2M by pursuing the path he has with Koji, it will not be the first time his idiotic decisions have saved $Ms from an opinion of yours.

Offering him arbitration is insurance.

AM has no idea, as of right now, if Koji is signing here. There are no guarantees. The Orioles had an insurance policy sitting there for them and, as they usually do, they made a poor decision.

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Offering him arbitration is insurance.

AM has no idea, as of right now, if Koji is signing here. There are no guarantees. The Orioles had an insurance policy sitting there for them and, as they usually do, they made a poor decision.

Yeah he took a gamble that nobody is going to offer Koji more than say, $6MM on the open market.

It's a gamble. We'll see how it plays out. If he re-signs him for less, you pretty much have to say good on him for anticipating the market for Koji.

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Yeah he took a gamble that nobody is going to offer Koji more than say, $6MM on the open market.

It's a gamble. We'll see how it plays out. If he re-signs him for less, you pretty much have to say good on him for anticipating the market for Koji.

Again, no you don't.

He has no idea if someone swoops in or if Koji decides to take less money to go elsewhere.

No matter what happens, the decision to not offer Koji arbitration was poor.

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Not only is SG right, but it's painfully stupid of the O's not to offered arbitration to Koji.

Yes, as SG notes, it's insurance.

Yes, as others have noted, there was a pick lost.

But it's even better/more obvious than that.

The traditional rule of thumb is better to spend one year of too much money than to be locked in to more years with guys over 32 or so. In fact, many basically say that one year deals are the best thing going.

If AM thinks Koji will take less than $9 MM of guranteed money over the next two years, he is smoking weed.

Thus, there was nothing wrong with locking in a one year $6 to $7 MM deal via arbitration and then be clear of any 2012 commitment.

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Looks like the Marlins are about to sign Vasquez for $7M for one year and give up their first or second round pick as JV is a Type A.

Both Vasquez and Milly were pretty bad last year overall, but if Millwood receives close to that $7M, then one has to believe our FO should have offered arbitration. We'll see how this plays out.

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Looks like the Marlins are about to sign Vasquez for $7M for one year and give up their first or second round pick as JV is a Type A.

Both Vasquez and Milly were pretty bad last year overall, but if Millwood receives close to that $7M, then one has to believe our FO should have offered arbitration. We'll see how this plays out.

99% sure Vazquez was a type B FA.

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Again, no you don't.

He has no idea if someone swoops in or if Koji decides to take less money to go elsewhere.

No matter what happens, the decision to not offer Koji arbitration was poor.

Right, I could cancel my family's health insurance for the coming year and maybe none of us will get sick. But even so, that would be a terrible decision. Same thing with Koji.

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He has no idea if someone swoops in or if Koji decides to take less money to go elsewhere.

No matter what happens, the decision to not offer Koji arbitration was poor.

Risking the loss of proven talent in order to save some money is not a path to success in the AL East.

When experienced foreign players come on the market, we are inevitably told that the O's will sit out the bidding because the risk is too great that they will not pan out. But when a couple of million $$ is at stake, all of a sudden AM turns into Mr. Brinkmanship, willing to gamble on the loss of one of his most effective relievers.

I'm getting sick of this act.

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