Jump to content

MacPhail Coming Back?

brotherlo38

By brotherlo38
in Orioles Talk

Recommended Posts

Sports Guy Hangout Grand Counsel

Sports Guy

Posted
Posted
Allow me to interrupt the general hand-wringing festival for this brief announcement -

For years, this is so par for the course with Angelos. It's not going to change! I don't like it. However, at the moment, I'm much more ticked off that the Yankees are still in the playoffs.

I asked this in another thread, so I'll try this again. Does it matter that the announcement, if any, comes this week instead of last week? Really?"If it makes anyone feel better, the Red Sox need a manager and they might need a general manager. The Angels and Cubs need a GM. " - Roch

Probably not. PA is the biggest problem.

However, that doesn't mean it doesn't look unorganized, unprofessional and ridiculously poor on the part of the organization.

Pathetic.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • Replies 179
  • Created
  • Last Reply
Sports Guy Hangout Grand Counsel

Sports Guy

Posted
Posted
I would like to see AM back and am mildly encouraged by the news - though the process is a bit more complicated than necessary.

I think 2011 was a decent year from the GM's point of view - many solid/strong moves on the trade front, international prospects emerging, etc.

I think when we hired Buck that our FO between AM and BS was the best we've seen in years and I still feel that way.

Wow, that's one hell of a ringing endorsement!! :rolleyes:
Link to comment
Share on other sites
lovetoaster Veteran All-Star

lovetoaster

Posted
Posted
I would like to see AM back and am mildly encouraged by the news - though the process is a bit more complicated than necessary.

I think 2011 was a decent year from the GM's point of view - many solid/strong moves on the trade front, international prospects emerging, etc.

I think when we hired Buck that our FO between AM and BS was the best we've seen in years and I still feel that way.

I don't necessarily disagree with this, because I think we have made some very good moves over the last few years. But they need to be more aggressive in several aspects to really change the direction of this franchise. And I don't know if the current setup is capable of that. The trades have been great, but we are going to have to be more aggressive in free agency and a lot more aggressive in the international market if we want to compete in the near future. We are making baby steps, and that is fine, but at this pace, if everything breaks right (which it never does), by the time we are on the cusp of contending, all of the good players that we currently have like Markakis and Jones are either going to be on the downside of their career or playing elsewhere. Then we would be right back at square one with a few good players like Machado and Bundy (hopefully) and a bunch of spare parts.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
osfan83 Major Leaguer Rising Star

osfan83

Posted
Posted
I don't necessarily disagree with this, because I think we have made some very good moves over the last few years. But they need to be more aggressive in several aspects to really change the direction of this franchise. And I don't know if the current setup is capable of that. The trades have been great, but we are going to have to be more aggressive in free agency and a lot more aggressive in the international market if we want to compete in the near future. We are making baby steps, and that is fine, but at this pace, if everything breaks right (which it never does), by the time we are on the cusp of contending, all of the good players that we currently have like Markakis and Jones are either going to be on the downside of their career or playing elsewhere. Then we would be right back at square one with a few good players like Machado and Bundy (hopefully) and a bunch of spare parts.

100% agree. Rebuilding must take only 3 or 4 years max. You can't rebuild over a 6 or 7 year period. If we started from scratch today we would have to plan on winning in 2015. Players peak, and free agency begins way to quickly to take baby steps.

Year 1 - Aquire lots of young talent.

Year 2 - develop young talent add some peices

Year 3 - Add final peices with 1 or 2 big talent aquisitions.

Year 4 - Make your run

Year 5 - make your run

Year 6 - make your run...and if it's not working dismattle and start at year 1.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Sports Guy Hangout Grand Counsel

Sports Guy

Posted
Posted
100% agree. Rebuilding must take only 3 or 4 years max. You can't rebuild over a 6 or 7 year period. If we started from scratch today we would have to plan on winning in 2015. Players peak, and free agency begins way to quickly to take baby steps.

Year 1 - Aquire lots of young talent.

Year 2 - develop young talent add some peices

Year 3 - Add final peices with 1 or 2 big talent aquisitions.

Year 4 - Make your run

Year 5 - make your run

Year 6 - make your run...and if it's not working dismattle and start at year 1.

If you buy and sell at the same time, you can contend much quicker if you make the right trades and acquire the right players.
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing


  • Posts

    • Since1984
      Was the offense just in a run of bad luck on this road trip?

      By Since1984 · Posted

      The Orioles need to hit a flare base hit every now and then. Said this the other day during the game thread. Jeter was the master of wearing flare during his career
    • Brian88
      2024 Week 2: Ravens vs Raiders

      By Brian88 · Posted

      And we’ve had different defensive coordinators during that time frame, Harbaugh is the constant yet again.
    • BRobinsonfan
      Was the offense just in a run of bad luck on this road trip?

      By BRobinsonfan · Posted

      I would add that Mountcastle and Urias were also losses to the offense.  Throw in a couple of slumps to our other regulars, creating 4-5 weak spots in the offense, and that's a lot to overcome.  I don't discount the mental part of hitting, but I do think most of our problems are directly linked to the rash of injuries we've suffered.  
    • luismatos4prez
      Trevor Rogers 2024

      By luismatos4prez · Posted

      Just my opinion. ZiPS projects him for a .708 OPS next year and I'd bet on the under. I think he's a .230/.295/.395 hitter with a below average glove. A Rio Ruiz type of player.
    • BRobinsonfan
      Sept 15 Roster Moves

      By BRobinsonfan · Posted

      We have to keep Irvin "pumped up."  When he's "deflated" he's just no good.  🤣
    • gtman55
      Was the offense just in a run of bad luck on this road trip?

      By gtman55 · Posted

      There just seems to be some sort of disconnect between upper management, coaching and the players right now. Do I know that for sure? Obviously no. But with the dropoff we've seen in offensive production something is off here. They literally have been mediocre since the All Star break. And the only big loss on the offensive side is Westburg. 
    • LookitsPuck
      Heston Kjerstad 2024

      By LookitsPuck · Posted

      There are no answers, only Zuul. But seriously, I think the issue at play here is we look at the body of work of guys like Eloy, Slater, O'Hearn, Rivera, and (to a lesser extent) Soto, you see where the holes are. I get that O'Hearn was thrust into 1B near FT due to the Mountcastle injury, but that didn't explain Hyde from playing O'Hearn in the OF when he is one of the worst defensive OFers on this team. Right now, this team is very much ailing. Ramon coming back will definitely help spell the need for O'Hearn to be a 1B by maybe letting Rivera play over there.  We need to get back to a point where O'Hearn is only hitting against righties and is playing sparingly in the field. Eloy is a liability at this point. I was a proponent of seeing what mechanical tweaks they could make similar to what they did w/ Hicks (and even O'Hearn!) and they did catch lightning in a bottle maybe due to excitement/adrenaline and BABIP being unsustainably high, but right now his flyballs aren't carrying and his groundballs aren't finding holes, so there's probably a reason why Chicago is saying, "Haha, told you so!" This team is in freefall offensively, at this point...just give the ABs to Mayo. You can't simultaneously say, "He needs to make adjustments!" and then let him have 5 ABs over 5 games. That isn't a way to grow a player. Not everybody can be a part time player and be effective off the bench/sparingly. Kjerstad has shown an ability to hit lefties in the minors as well as in the majors (albeit in very limited time, he his 4 for 10 against them). Let the kid play. Slater has fallen off a cliff, but at least he's a solid defensive OFer I get it, nobody is going to solve the offensive woes of this team when it comes to the rookies/young guys. Mayo, Holliday, Kjerstad, even Cowser...they're all still adjusting. The change needs to come from the main stays. Now, Adley is starting to hit, Gunnar is back on a hitting binge, but this lineup desperately needs some consistent production from Tony to go along with it because right now way too much pressure is being put on the bottom of the lineup and the young guys. And I'm not convinced Westy solves any of those issues as wrist injuries are a beast to bounceback from quickly.   

  • Popular Contributors

×
×
  • Create New...