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ChaosLex Hangout Grand Counsel

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It's an example of MacPhail being too greedy. It's Miguel Tejada all over again. Bedard is going to be worse than last season or hurt and we either trade him for less or watch him walk. You know it's going to happen. That's what you get for waiting... :rolleyes:

Absolutely agreed. Maybe we'll trade with another team with a crappy farm system next year, and get back quantity over quality for Bedard.

I am honest to God sick to my stomach right now. :mad:

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TerpmanJay A-Ball

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I think Mcphail can continue to be greedy. I'm just not going to be gloomy about us dragging this out. Before he was shut down last year, EB was THE BEST pitcher in the majors.

Someone will pony up.

I've felt all along that EB will end up in Anaheim for Kendrick, Adenhart and Wood... no inside info or anything, just a gut feeling...

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TerpmanJay A-Ball

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Absolutely agreed. Maybe we'll trade with another team with a crappy farm system next year, and get back quantity over quality for Bedard.

I am honest to God sick to my stomach right now. :mad:

a little extra kick in the egg-nog will help with that ;)

Seriously, we'll come away with a good deal. Trust AM until he gives you a reason not to. Remember way back...uh, last year...when no one even wanted to talk to us re-trades because of Angetroll's interference?

Things are getting better.

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clarence Major Leaguer Cup of Coffee

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You think the Reds are actually out of the Bedard hunt because of that trade? Come on. If they are serious about being contenders, Bedard is still a huge piece to that puzzle. They had an extra outfielder and just dealt him away for more pitching depth, not a difference maker for the next two seasons.

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I've felt all along that EB will end up in Anaheim for Kendrick, Adenhart and Wood... no inside info or anything, just a gut feeling...

I second this. I think Bedard makes more sense to a team that is almost assured of a playoff spot next season than to teams like the M's and Reds which may have a chance, but most likely will not make it in the two years they'll have him under control.

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UMterp08 Major Leaguer Cup of Coffee

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Objectively speaking, this trade just seems like a great one for the Rangers. They get a potential middle of the lineup bat, without giving up Hurley, Andrus, or Teagarden. Volquez is nice, but he's about as inconsistent as they come. He could just as easily bust and never be heard from again, as he could turn into a good #2 starter.

see BA's take on the trade. they seem to agree.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/majors/news/264581.html

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Mackus Hangout Grand Counsel

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Some people need to calm down a little bit. The Reds trading a guy that we probably weren't interested in (MacPhail wasn't, I would have loved to have him) isn't the end of the world. Volquez may end the Reds pursuit of Bedard, but I don't think its a certainty. And the Mariners are still interested.

We'll still get a huge haul for Bedard, and if we don't, then we should hold onto him. I don't think that Cueto, Votto and some of the Reds other mid-range specs was enough to move him at this point.

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LookinUp Hangout Grand Counsel

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My best guess...Andy McPhail is very smart and he's trying to load up on pitching because teams with good pitching win. This trade provides Volquez as the 4th player to the Votto, Cueto, Stubbs trade. That means AM wants pitching over Hamilton.

I suppose it's possible that this is Cincy's plan B...but I personally wouldn't move to plan B before ever losing out on plan A.

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Here is a contrarian thought -- what if Texas acquired Hamilton to flip him to us in a Bedard trade?

First thought that went through my mind. Then rationality got the better of hope.

If we were interested in Hamilton, the Reds would have known that by now. Why would they send him Texas if it was a piece that we wanted? It would help Texas get Bedard and make the Cincy trade less likely.

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