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This is not the question being debated at all in this thread. As I posted above, under a hypothetical Tillman for Butler straight swap, it's deciding between:

1. Butler DH + Betemit BN + Britton/Matusz/Arrieta/whoever SP5

2. Betemit LH DH +Pearce/Valencia RH DH + Tillman +8MM (difference between Butler and Tillman's salary).

Nobody in their right mind thinks a Betemit platoon is as good as Butler. There are a lot of ways of looking at it where you could get them close when you account for stuff like baserunning, but in the end, Butler is a way better option that a Betemit platoon. You seem hung up on the idea that people think Butler is not good, or overrated, and don't want him. That's not the case at all - there are just a lot of other factors to consider than just "is Butler better than Betemit."

Why is the money a issue...they essentially cut Reynolds and have enough additional revenue from attendance and post seasons to make multiple additions.

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How is Arrieta underrated on this board?

Maybe I'm wrong, but all the hype seems to be around Tillman when Arrieta has better peripherals. The rotation I see most people talking about is something like Hammel/Chen/Saunders/Tillman/Gonzalez with Arrieta uninvolved.

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Maybe I'm wrong, but all the hype seems to be around Tillman when Arrieta has better peripherals. The rotation I see most people talking about is something like Hammel/Chen/Saunders/Tillman/Gonzalez with Arrieta uninvolved.

Because Arreita looked lost throughout most of the season. Just because the peripherals suggest he was better doesn't mean the actual results bare that out. Tillman and Matusz also showed improvement as the season ended, whereas Arrieta did not.

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Because Arreita looked lost throughout most of the season. Just because the peripherals suggest he was better doesn't mean the actual results bare that out. Tillman and Matusz also showed improvement as the season ended, whereas Arrieta did not.

Because Tillman pitches deep in games and has multiple low hit games to his credit.

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Maybe I'm wrong, but all the hype seems to be around Tillman when Arrieta has better peripherals. The rotation I see most people talking about is something like Hammel/Chen/Saunders/Tillman/Gonzalez with Arrieta uninvolved.

Arrieta has argueable the best stuff. Just hasn't put it all together yet, if he ever does.

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