Orioles Discussing Four-Year Deal With Nick Markakis (Signs w/ATL)

[weams]

Knowing you are going to lose is not gambling.

Speaking of losing...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Brian Wilson exercises $10 million player option for*2015 <a href="http://t.co/iQc6gYYuF4">http://t.co/iQc6gYYuF4</a></p>— HardballTalk (@HardballTalk) <a href="

">November 3, 2014</a></blockquote>

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[Can_of_corn]

I think they should let the players be free agents and compensation be damned. Whether or not the teams need it is questionable, but it really is a burden on the older free agents.

If they need a compensation system, just allow compensation picks at the ends of certain rounds for any contract with a total value of $xxx. Let the AAV determine the round of compensation. For example, the top 5 AAV signings result in the former team getting a pick after the first round. Keep going by fives for the first five rounds (top 25 AAV).

The owners and players agreed to it.

[Can_of_corn]

The compensation system is because without, the Yankees get all of the Free Agents. Not just most of them. And Mid-Small market teams get nothing back.

No.

The compensation system is because it helps suppress player salaries.

[mdbdotcom]

The owners and players agreed to it.

They have negotiated agreements to every system they've used so far. That doesn't mean they should stop negotiating for a better system.

[tntoriole]

The owners and players agreed to it.

It is funny, but years ago when the original suit against the owners was being filed by Marvin Miller and the players union, Charlie Finley kept insisting to all the other owners to just give ALL the players free agency every single year. Marvin Miller later wrote that this was the worst nightmare fear he had, knowing that he couldn't very well argue in public or the courts against the idea of freedom for all players, but also knowing that the prices would only go up if there were only a certain number of free agents available every year. Fortunately for the players, none of the other owners listened to Finley about much anyway and certainly not this.

[waroriole]

I think they should let the players be free agents and compensation be damned. Whether or not the teams need it is questionable, but it really is a burden on the older free agents.

If they need a compensation system, just allow compensation picks at the ends of certain rounds for any contract with a total value of $xxx. Let the AAV determine the round of compensation. For example, the top 5 AAV signings result in the former team getting a pick after the first round. Keep going by fives for the first five rounds (top 25 AAV).

If a guy has 10 years of service, let them be a FA without the comp pick attached.

[Can_of_corn]

They have negotiated agreements to every system they've used so far. That doesn't mean they should stop negotiating for a better system.

The negotiated the reserve clause?

I missed that.

It does mean that the current system is fine until the contract is up for renewal.

[gmelson26]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>requiring decisions on qualifying offers by nov. 10 is like having the trade deadline be april 10</p>? Jon Heyman (@JonHeymanCBS) <a href="

">November 3, 2014</a></blockquote>

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Been talking with Scott Boras?

I disagree with Heyman here. These players and their agents have had all season to think about QOs. They know if they're probably going to be given one. Noone's blindsided here and needs extra time.

[weams]

We are all praying that someone accepts the QO so we never again have to hear you say that no one has ever accepted one.

I know!

[El Gordo]

We are all praying that someone accepts the QO so we never again have to hear you say that no one has ever accepted one.

If Cuddyer doesn't he's insane, the best he would get on the FA market would be 2/20.

[CA-ORIOLE]

Knowing you are going to lose is not gambling.

Well, I think it was 50/50 he'd have taken the QO. 0 % according to weams. I'm guessing you're at 100% then. I think COC was somewhere in the middle. Opinions vary I guess.

[BarclaySouthway]

So, what are the odds of Nick signing elsewhere at this point?

PA must remember the Roberts deal. Several comparable 2Bs signed for much less in FA after Roberts got that deal. Shouldn't the O's let Nick shop around and then make an offer? A 4/40 is a pretty big commitment.

[weams]

If a guy has 10 years of service, let them be a FA without the comp pick attached.

http://www.blessyouboys.com/2014/11/3/7146673/nick-markakis-free-agent-rumors-detroit-tigers

[El Gordo]

So, what are the odds of Nick signing elsewhere at this point?

PA must remember the Roberts deal. Several comparable 2Bs signed for much less in FA after Roberts got that deal. Shouldn't the O's let Nick shop around and then make an offer? A 4/40 is a pretty big commitment.

Nick's not getting more than 3 years from any other club. If he wants four it's the O's.

[atomic]

I think they should let the players be free agents and compensation be damned. Whether or not the teams need it is questionable, but it really is a burden on the older free agents.

If they need a compensation system, just allow compensation picks at the ends of certain rounds for any contract with a total value of $xxx. Let the AAV determine the round of compensation. For example, the top 5 AAV signings result in the former team getting a pick after the first round. Keep going by fives for the first five rounds (top 25 AAV).

It isn't a burden on a guy to take a one year 15.3 million gurNteed contract after a career of making huge amounts of money. That is an insane amount of money for 8 months of work.