Emotions asside is there much difference between De Aza and Markakis in the outfield?

[CA-ORIOLE]

Yeah, De Aza doesn't appear to have the arm for RF, though he would almost certainly range better imo. Prefer De Aza in LF. Pearce/Lough would be more preferable defensively in RF (though I'd like another option there myself).

[Tony-OH]

Markakis fWAR last 2 years: 2.5

DeAza fWAR last 2 years: 3.6

I don't think you can clearly say Markakis is the better option.

You are letting those pesky fWAR stats get in people's way of over valuing Markakis.

If Markakis and his agent are trying to determine his value based off Stanton's insane contract then he better look elsewhere. Dan Duquette thankfully does not let little things like emotions get in the way of resigning a guy for his value going forward.

[droper]

The biggest reason for De Aza being traded was that he is not a 'heads up' player. He will frustrate you in the field and on the base paths. He was the worst base runner on a team with Paul Konerko and Adam Dunn. Yes he has some speed, but he just is not a smart ball player and I personally hate the idea of him being an everyday player for the O's.

[Reboulet'sStache]

I think De Aza will be around Markakis' production, whether its better or worse. But De Aza isn't going to be around Markakis' price tag, so you're coming out ahead either way.

[Mayor McCheese]

6 hours ago De Aza was most likely going to be non-tendered.

Now hes the starting LF for the Baltimore Orioles.

Yep that sounds about right.

Lemonade to Lemons

[Mayor McCheese]

Did you mean non tendered? I think most assumed he'd be tendered and be the starting LF.

Correct. Incorrect.

[Camden_yardbird]

The biggest reason for De Aza being traded was that he is not a 'heads up' player. He will frustrate you in the field and on the base paths. He was the worst base runner on a team with Paul Konerko and Adam Dunn. Yes he has some speed, but he just is not a smart ball player and I personally hate the idea of him being an everyday player for the O's.

Buck made Robert Andino a ball player. I'm sure he can do the same with De Aza. I'm also sure Buck and Duquette have had the discussion as to whether he is a "coachable" player.

[MurphDogg]

The biggest reason for De Aza being traded was that he is not a 'heads up' player. He will frustrate you in the field and on the base paths. He was the worst base runner on a team with Paul Konerko and Adam Dunn. Yes he has some speed, but he just is not a smart ball player and I personally hate the idea of him being an everyday player for the O's.

How come players with these reputations always seem to have darker pigmentation to their skin? Based on advanced baserunning metrics he was a better than average baserunner every season prior to this one. Even last season, Konerko, Dunn and Gillaspie were all worse baserunners on a ratio basis.

[Mayor McCheese]

You think most of the posters on here thought De Aza would be non-tendered? I missed all of those posts.

If you are going to cherry pick now that Cruz and possibly Markakis not coming back, then sure he will be tendered.

Backtrack the last few months, most people thought he was going to be non tendered... as who would really pay $5.9MM for a part-time OF'er.

[Ruzious]

There are pros and cons.

De Aza probably has more range than Nick

Nick has a better arm and does not make mistakes. What he gets to he catches.

If you're a pitcher, do you feel more confident with a guy you know will almost always make the smart play, or with a guy who has a little more range but you can't depend on to make the right play? Not to mention that right after the trade, the O's GM said D'Aza doesn't have a good arm.

[CA-ORIOLE]

If you are going to cherry pick now that Cruz and possibly Markakis not coming back, then sure he will be tendered.

Backtrack the last few months, most people thought he was going to be non tendered... as who would really pay $5.9MM for a part-time OF'er.

There were certainly some, but most was not my impression at all. Certainly not 6 hours ago, but I assumed that was just rhetoric on your part.

[AlbionHero]

I thought the only way he'd be non tendered was if Markakis was signed before the deadline. If Markakis still isn't in the fold, he's certainly coming back.

[Can_of_corn]

Why do people want Pearce to play everyday? Guy is a classic case of a 1 year wonder. Counting on him in 2015 is a huge mistake IMO. But i don't think De Aza is that huge of a drop off in RF.

His wrist won't hold up if Buck tries to play him every day.

[weams]

His wrist won't hold up if Buck tries to play him every day.

They never have. Ever.

[Three Run Homer]

Whether he's in LF or RF, De Aza requires a platoon partner. He can't hit lefties to save his life. That's one clear advantage that Markakis has over De Aza--he can play every day.