PED Suspensions Coming

[Triple Crown]

I don't about anyone else but I don't care bout the phone. I don't like Ortiz because he's a diva who pimps his HR, cries about strike calls, and gets away with 'roiding.

Couldn't of said it any better, his antics on the field are why he's despised by so many. Bigger than the game

[weams]

Only because he was so on tilt that he didn't know Donaldson was out. The point being, he thought he was throwing the bat at Donaldson.

So you are saying Manny was 'Roid raging? If you are, I am not going to unilaterally defend against that.

[Can_of_corn]

Only because he was so on tilt that he didn't know Donaldson was out. The point being, he thought he was throwing the bat at Donaldson.

As opposed to deciding to throw the bat at the pitcher who threw at his surgically repaired knees and then deciding at the last second to release the bat in foul territory instead?

[ArtVanDelay]

As opposed to deciding to throw the bat at the pitcher who threw at his surgically repaired knees and then deciding at the last second to release the bat in foul territory instead?

Yep, it seems that this is exactly what happened. There's no way he didn't know Donaldson wasn't in the game.

[Sessh]

I don't about anyone else but I don't care bout the phone. I don't like Ortiz because he's a diva who pimps his HR, cries about strike calls, and gets away with 'roiding.

In every country and league where baseball is played, home runs are pimped. Bat flips and pimping is all over the place in the KBO and NPB because they realize baseball is a game and want to see players having fun out

there. Who doesn't cry about bad strike/ball calls? Who hasn't and doesn't? No one cries about that more than fans and their cries for "robo umps" and players will always get away with roiding. If you want to place blame

for that, there's plenty of people in line ahead of David Ortiz.

Anyway, no one's mind will be changed and it wasn't my intention to try to do that, but that's some pretty heavy weight to put on one guy for doing things that are widespread in baseball. In Japan, they juice the ball and

don't even try to hide it anymore. The cat is out of the PED bag in MLB and you can't put it back in now, so that's a lot of hate to spread around and a lot of energy wondering who is doing what instead of just

enjoying the games which is what I prefer to do most of the time.

[Sessh]

As opposed to deciding to throw the bat at the pitcher who threw at his surgically repaired knees and then deciding at the last second to release the bat in foul territory instead?

The bat didn't go in foul territory. It went down the third base line in fair territory.

[weams]

In every country and league where baseball is played, home runs are pimped. Bat flips and pimping is all over the place in the KBO and NPB because they realize baseball is a game and want to see players having fun out

there. Who doesn't cry about bad strike/ball calls? Who hasn't and doesn't? No one cries about that more than fans and their cries for "robo umps" and players will always get away with roiding. If you want to place blame

for that, there's plenty of people in line ahead of David Ortiz.

Anyway, no one's mind will be changed and it wasn't my intention to try to do that, but that's some pretty heavy weight to put on one guy for doing things that are widespread in baseball. In Japan, they juice the ball and

don't even try to hide it anymore. The cat is out of the PED bag in MLB and you can't put it back in now, so that's a lot of hate to spread around and a lot of energy wondering who is doing what instead of just

enjoying the games which is what I prefer to do most of the time.

Thank you for your opinion.

[NashLumber]

I guess I just don't have enough "homer" in me. :laughlol: Gregg kind of instigated that incident, though.

The Red Sox threw inside all year to the O's batters (and everyone else) and even plunked O's, yet when the O's threw inside, it was not ok, apparently. It was clear that Ortiz was not going to tolerate pitching inside to him or challenging his alleged propriety to the inside of the plate. Ortiz definitely heated up the scenario by gesturing at Gregg and leaving the box towards him. Gregg was playing baseball. Ortiz was playing something else. Yes, Gregg taunted him on his way to first *after* that, but Gregg did not instigate the entire incident.

Edited June 3, 2016 by NashLumber

[El Gordo]

In every country and league where baseball is played, home runs are pimped. Bat flips and pimping is all over the place in the KBO and NPB because they realize baseball is a game and want to see players having fun out

there. Who doesn't cry about bad strike/ball calls? Who hasn't and doesn't? No one cries about that more than fans and their cries for "robo umps" and players will always get away with roiding. If you want to place blame

for that, there's plenty of people in line ahead of David Ortiz.

Anyway, no one's mind will be changed and it wasn't my intention to try to do that, but that's some pretty heavy weight to put on one guy for doing things that are widespread in baseball. In Japan, they juice the ball and

don't even try to hide it anymore. The cat is out of the PED bag in MLB and you can't put it back in now, so that's a lot of hate to spread around and a lot of energy wondering who is doing what instead of just

enjoying the games which is what I prefer to do most of the time.

I don't care about what they do in Japan, I find it offensive. And while I don't get hysterical over PED's I don't like to see a guy like Ortiz getting a free ride because he's Big Poppi while guys like Byrd get fried.

[clapdiddy]

The Red Sox threw inside all year to the O's batters (and everyone else) and even plunked O's, yet when the O's threw inside, it was not ok, apparently. It was clear that Ortiz was not going to tolerate pitching inside to him or challenging his alleged propriety to the inside of the plate. Ortiz definitely heated up the scenario by gesturing at Gregg and leaving the box towards him. Gregg was playing baseball. Ortiz was playing something else. Yes, Gregg taunted him on his way to first *after* that, but Gregg did not instigate the entire incident.

No matter how bad KG was here, he'll always have a soft spot in my heart based off of this.

[NashLumber]

No matter how bad KG was here, he'll always have a soft spot in my heart based off of this.

Ditto.

"Run it out, you juiced up tub of lard "! *

* Paraphrased. I'm certain that last bit was in fewer, more profane and pointed words.

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[sportsfan8703]

I don't care about what they do in Japan, I find it offensive. And while I don't get hysterical over PED's I don't like to see a guy like Ortiz getting a free ride because he's Big Poppi while guys like Byrd get fried.

Seems like only the stupid players get caught. Plus Byrd was on a new team in Cleveland so maybe his new chemists weren't as good. Papi has a pretty solid network in BOS.

[allquixotic]

The money is also what keeps players from throwing games. Who's going to risk never getting that free agent payday to take what's almost certainly less money from underworld scum? It's hard to pay off someone to lose when they're pulling down an average of $25k a game.

Hey, great point. I can't actually argue with this at all. It's valid and true. We only have to look into baseball history -- modern baseball history, even! -- to see evidence of this when baseball players weren't paid all that much.

[El Gordo]

Seems like only the stupid players get caught. Plus Byrd was on a new team in Cleveland so maybe his new chemists weren't as good. Papi has a pretty solid network in BOS.

I've listened to Byrd on XM, he strikes me as more intelligent than Ploppy. Just got bad advice from his personal chemist. Doesn't make enough money to afford the best like Poopy does.

[AdamK]

"I have paid close attention to the substances that are banned by the Joint Drug Agreement, as I had no intention of taking any banned substances. I relied upon a medical professional for assistance and advice with respect to the supplements that I was taking. However, certain supplements I was taking were not on the NSF Certified for Sport list, and therefore, I assumed certain risks in taking them.

"When I learned that I had tested positive for Ipamorelin, I retained the services of private counsel and an independent chemist to determine the origin of the Ipamorelin test result because I never knowingly ingested Ipamorelin. After an extensive investigation by my lawyers and an independent chemist, it was concluded that the most likely source of Ipamorelin was a tainted supplement.

"I alone am responsible for what I put in my body, and therefore, I have decided for forgo my right to an appeal in this matter and accept the suspension. I apologize for any harm this has caused the Cleveland Indians, Indians' fans, my teammates, and most importantly, my family."

Not a bad statement, as far as statements go.