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Are you in favor of the Miley trade?

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Are you in favor of the Miley trade?  

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  1. 1. Are you in favor of the Miley trade?

    • Yes. He's an upgrade and the cost is reasonable
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    • Yes. Not sure if he's an upgrade, but he gives us flexibility.
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    • No. He's not an upgrade.
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    • No. Even if he's a slight upgrade, Miranda was too much to give up
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    • No. Even if he's a slight upgrade, his contract is too expensive compared to his value.
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maybenxtyr Hangout Veteran Council

maybenxtyr

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A classic Duquette value play. If Miley's better than Ubaldo, then it's a win. If he's better than Ubaldo and can reliably go 5+ innings a game then he's a solid win. If he can't, well it's only Ariel Miranda after all.

Unless this has knocked the O's out of the genuine chance for a better SP, I don't get why there could be any angst.

I voted yes he's an upgrade, and the cost of acquiring him was reasonable. The salary is a different note though. If this means Ubaldo is gone then I like it even more.

Perhaps they can swap contract for contract with In Ubaldo after this deadline. Hopefully they can get an OF with a similar contract.

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isestrex Hangout Grand Counsel

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He's another decent upside pitcher who's proven to eat innings. Though he's had flashes of greatness, overall he's had a disappointing career.

Sound familiar? He's DD's favorite acquisition.

Sure there's hope he gets hot and eats some innings for us... but that was the argument for Gallardo... and Ubaldo... and Worely...

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It doesn't move the needle much. Meh.

I don't know about that. Miley is a solid starting pitcher which is something this team needs. He's been pretty good of late and considering the options without him, I think it does move the needle a bit.

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Now DD can say he did something

Not going to get the team in the playoffs

Not going to keep the team out of the playoffs

Spends 9+ million of ownership money for no value

If Miranda is pitching in the majors in two years it's a small loss, mainly just a waste of money

and lost opportunity on what better things a good GM could do with 9 million dollars (International signings???)

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$Greatness$ Major Leaguer Cup of Coffee

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If the Orioles had done nothing everyone would be mad. Some are still unhappy. This move isn't great ...but we didn't have the chips and gutting the team of Sisco, Mancini, and others would've been a bad move long term.

What's up with this long term stuff? Why are we not in a WIN NOW mode. We were 4 games away from a World series, then we regressed and now we're in the thick of the race again. Scared money doesn't make any money. We keep dumpster diving hoping to pull out a steak with all the trimmings. Just one time go for broke and let the chips fall where they may.

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Aristotelian Hangout Grand Counsel

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I voted the last option. If he was a free agent next year it would be no problem, but now he is yet another guy that we are committed to paying starter money next year. Tillman - Arb 3; Gallardo $13M; Miley $12M; Ubaldo $13.5M. More money committed, less flexibility to develop organizational guys. I think this will hurt us long term without much benefit short term. This is basically a more expensive Bud Norris with a little bit less upside.

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I voted the last option. If he was a free agent next year it would be no problem, but now he is yet another guy that we are committed to paying starter money next year. Tillman - Arb 3; Gallardo $13M; Miley $12M; Ubaldo $13.5M. More money committed, less flexibility to develop organizational guys. I think this will hurt us long term without much benefit short term. This is basically a more expensive Bud Norris with a little bit less upside.

Miley's contract for next year is $8.9 million, not $12 million (that's the club option year). Do some of you people work in accounting in the Orioles' front office or something?

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Miley's contract for next year is $8.9 million, not $12 million (that's the club option year). Do some of you people work in accounting in the Orioles' front office or something?

$8.75 million, BR lists it at 8.9 because they spread the $500K signing bonus over the length of the contract.

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Miley's contract for next year is $8.9 million, not $12 million (that's the club option year). Do some of you people work in accounting in the Orioles' front office or something?

My bad, I was looking at his 2018 team option. So, $8.9M with $500K buyout. Still, that is 4 guys making $8M or more, plus Gausman. We will have to officially write off Ubaldo just to make room for Bundy.

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I voted the last option. If he was a free agent next year it would be no problem, but now he is yet another guy that we are committed to paying starter money next year. Tillman - Arb 3; Gallardo $13M; Miley $12M; Ubaldo $13.5M. More money committed, less flexibility to develop organizational guys. I think this will hurt us long term without much benefit short term. This is basically a more expensive Bud Norris with a little bit less upside.
Next year our rotation looks to be Tillman, Gausman, Gallardo, Bundy and ....? Who in house or FA next year is an upgrade over Miley for #5 SP?
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