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25 Nuggets Hangout Grand Counsel

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5 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Our no. 11 prospect, per the OH season ending list.    The other 10 must be awesome!

This guy was seriously underrated.   He may not walk a lot, but he's got good strike zone judgment and makes great adjustments during at bats.   He's got more power than advertised, he's faster than advertised, and he's very adequate in the outfield.

I'll remember his performance tonight for a long, long time.   

I had the pleasure of watching both HRs live on MLBN live look-ins.  His 9th inning HR shows me he is going to stick as a major leaguer.  Made the adjustments on both the down-in slider on pitch #2 and the high and away FB on pitch #4.  Then missed his pitch, but fouled off two good pitches to get around to another hanging breaking ball.

Real good stuff.  Underrated, yes.

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12 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Our no. 11 prospect, per the OH season ending list.    The other 10 must be awesome!

This guy was seriously underrated.   He may not walk a lot, but he's got good strike zone judgment and makes great adjustments during at bats.   He's got more power than advertised, he's faster than advertised, and he's very adequate in the outfield.

I'll remember his performance tonight for a long, long time.   

Trey is a BEAST!  His swing got shorter and much quicker sometime at Frederick.

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6 minutes ago, 25 Nuggets said:

I had the pleasure of watching both HRs live on MLBN live look-ins.  His 9th inning HR shows me he is going to stick as a major leaguer.  Made the adjustments on both the down-in slider on pitch #2 and the high and away FB on pitch #4.  Then missed his pitch, but fouled off two good pitches to get around to another hanging breaking ball.

Real good stuff.  Underrated, yes.

In the post game interview..he said he was sitting finally on that last change...thinking right through each pitch. 

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2 minutes ago, SteveA said:

Players in Oriole history to hit a game tying HR in the 9th and then a game winning HR in extra innings in the same game:

Boog Powell

Eddie Murray

Trey Mancini

Trey is company.

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6 minutes ago, SteveA said:

Players in Oriole history to hit a game tying HR in the 9th and then a game winning HR in extra innings in the same game:

Boog Powell

Eddie Murray

Trey Mancini

And apparently PINCH HITTING the game tying HR in the 9th and then hitting the game winner in extras has only been done 3 times in the regular season in the HISTORY of MLB:

Jeff Heath, for the Boston Braves vs the Cincinnati Reds in 1949

Brian McCann, for the Atlanta Braves vs the Houston Astros in 2011

Trey Mancini, for the Baltimore Orioles vs the Pittsburgh Pirates in 2017

It also happened once in post season but I won't ruin this celebratory night by bringing it up.

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1 hour ago, SteveA said:

And apparently PINCH HITTING the game tying HR in the 9th and then hitting the game winner in extras has only been done 3 times in the regular season in the HISTORY of MLB:

Jeff Heath, for the Boston Braves vs the Cincinnati Reds in 1949

Brian McCann, for the Atlanta Braves vs the Houston Astros in 2011

Trey Mancini, for the Baltimore Orioles vs the Pittsburgh Pirates in 2017

It also happened once in post season but I won't ruin this celebratory night by bringing it up.

Who did Trey Mancini pinch hit for? That might make a nice trivia question .

 

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