Miami Marlins pitcher Jose Fernandez killed in 3am boating incident

[Can_of_corn]

It's better than painkillers, which many current and former NFL players are addicted to.

Lots of Americans without pain management issues are addicted to painkillers.

[backwardsk]

This just raises more questions in my mind about the ability of MLB's drug testing system to catch users.

Cocaine leaves your system very quickly. It takes a lot of work to test positive.

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[Can_of_corn]

Cocaine leaves your system very quickly. It takes a lot of work to test positive.

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Testing for drugs of abuse is not administered randomly, but on a basis of reasonable cause. If one of the HPAC panel members has evidence that a player has used, possessed, or sold banned substances in the last 12 months, they call a conference and discuss the evidence with the other members. If a majority vote to test the suspected player is reached then testing will take place no more than 48 hours later. Drugs of abuse include natural cannabinoids (e.g., THC, hashish and marijuana), synthetic THC and cannabimimetics (e.g., K2 and Spice), cocaine, LSD, opiates (e.g., oxycodone, heroin, codeine, and morphine), MDMA (ecstasy), GHB and phencyclidine (PCP).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Baseball_drug_policy#Drugs_of_Abuse

A lot of work to test positive.

[MDtransplant757]

Lots of Americans without pain management issues are addicted to painkillers.

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Mom is a nurse, and she's told me a ton of stories about how scary some of the meds they put on in the hospital due to people in both the short and long term effects that she's seen over the years. All of them were opioid stories, but the synthetic ones like fentonal and OxyContin were the scariest. Those drugs can and will mess you up

[DrungoHazewood]

The MLB players have a stronger union, by far.

And it's due as much to the nature of the game as anything else. Baseball careers are relatively long and the players have shown that they are willing to miss a season to get what they want in a labor dispute.

Football careers for the majority of players are very short. Most of the players as individuals just can't afford to strike and miss a season, so they have little choice but to cave to most of what the owners want.

It's also the existence of the minor leagues. If NFL players go on strike they're replaced with essentially AAA guys, because if you don't make the big league team you're out of NFL control entirely. And given several months of NFL training some scabs will be better than the guys on strike. Many of the scabs will have been recent college stars with name recognition. This happened in '87. This takes away a ton of leverage from the players.

If MLB goes on strike the replacement players are about six steps down the ladder, indy leaguers and non-drafted free agents. Not even remotely MLB quality. Your new all stars will be on par with a 30-year-old Jeff Fiorentino. This was what happened in '95.

[Can_of_corn]

It's also the existence of the minor leagues. If NFL players go on strike they're replaced with essentially AAA guys, because if you don't make the big league team you're out of NFL control entirely. And given several months of NFL training some scabs will be better than the guys on strike. Many of the scabs will have been recent college stars with name recognition. This happened in '87. This takes away a ton of leverage from the players.

If MLB goes on strike the replacement players are about six steps down the ladder, indy leaguers and non-drafted free agents. Not even remotely MLB quality. Your new all stars will be on par with a 30-year-old Jeff Fiorentino. This was what happened in '95.

Kevin Millar.

[weams]

Kevin Millar.

See? Right there.

[DrungoHazewood]

Kevin Millar.

What were there... three or four MLB scabs who ended up with MLB careers? There had to be at least several dozen NFL scabs who went on to good careers.

[Can_of_corn]

What were there... three or four MLB scabs who ended up with MLB careers? There had to be at least several dozen NFL scabs who went on to good careers.

I know the O's had two of them at the same time, which struck me as odd considering the owner's views on Unions.

Anyway it only takes one Millar to disprove "Not even remotely MLB quality".

[OsEatAlEast]

Cocaine leaves your system very quickly. It takes a lot of work to test positive.

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Unfortunately the MLBPA would never go for the hair test.

[MDtransplant757]

Unfortunately the MLBPA would never go for the hair test.

The military does now

[OsEatAlEast]

It's better than painkillers, which many current and former NFL players are addicted to.

Painkillers are bad news pretty much all around. On one hand they're addicting. Then on the other they keep your body from healing properly. Both of which can keep you on the painkillers for longer than you need them. I had that experience when I had plantar fasciitis. It didn't go away until I stopped taking medicine for the pain.

[OsEatAlEast]

The military does now

I think it's a good idea for any job where you could potentially have other peoples lives in your hands.

[Can_of_corn]

I think it's a good idea for any job where you could potentially have other peoples lives in your hands.

So Uber drivers?

[Redskins Rick]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Baseball_drug_policy#Drugs_of_Abuse

A lot of work to test positive.

One of the former Redskins, Chris Cooley pretty much said, it takes a complete idiot to fail a NFL drug test, everybody knows when they will be tested.