OK, Explain to me how this works

[Roll Tide]

I expect a payroll increase... otherwise we need to move toward rebuilding imo

[Can_of_corn]

I expect a payroll increase... otherwise we need to move toward rebuilding imo

If payroll wasn't going to continue to climb they should have started rebuilding last year.

[Frobby]

If payroll wasn't going to continue to climb they should have started rebuilding last year.

I'm comfortable with the decision to try to contend in 2016, because we did. I think we have a decent chance to contend in 2017 without a massive payroll increase, though it will take a clever offseason and some step-ups in performance by certain players to do it.

[crawjo]

I would imagine there is some modest room for growth in the payroll. Not enough to make a splash, but enough to sign a Reddick type.

I don't think there's any way Trumbo comes back, which as far as I'm concerned is okay with me.

[Il BuonO]

I'm guessing Dan doesn't return his agent's calls.

Ouch man, my good eye!

[Il BuonO]

Trumbo is a good 1B. I can see him with CLE and HOU.

Doesn't Cleveland have Napoli or is he a FA?

[backwardsk]

Doesn't Cleveland have Napoli or is he a FA?

He's a FA, but there is an interest to bring him back. They also have Martinez.

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[isestrex]

Trade Manny or Britton? I dunno.

No no... you have it wrong. The OH wants to EXTEND Manny and pay him more money this offseason, on top of all the arb raises and bringing in a middle tier FA bat.

[MDtransplant757]

No no... you have it wrong. The OH wants to EXTEND Manny and pay him more money this offseason, on top of all the arb raises and bringing in a middle tier FA bat.

I'd extend him now or next year. We'd lose him in FA to the Yankees. I'd honestly cry if he goes to the Yankees.

[Can_of_corn]

I'd extend him now or next year. We'd lose him in FA to the Yankees. I'd honestly cry if he goes to the Yankees.

What if it were the Marlins? Would you be OK with him going to Miami?

[backwardsk]

No no... you have it wrong. The OH wants to EXTEND Manny and pay him more money this offseason, on top of all the arb raises and bringing in a middle tier FA bat.

You can extend Manny this offseason without having to pay him more than the 10-12M he'll get in 2017. You can free up money by trading Britton and, to a lesser extent, Jimenez. You then will have money for "middle tier free agents", paying Arb and contractual raises, and keep payroll similar to 2016.

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[jabba72]

I think they use Mancini at DH and find another Rule-5 AAA acquisition to fill Trumbo's role. Have they decided not to bring Alvarez back? I'll sign him at DH over Trumbo.

[jabba72]

If payroll wasn't going to continue to climb they should have started rebuilding last year.

With Manny, Jones, Tillman, and Britton on the team? Those are alot of prime players.

[tntoriole]

That is not a savings with the Arbitration Increases for:

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[TD=class: xl63]Zach Britton[/TD]

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[TD=class: xl63]Ryan Flaherty[/TD]

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[TD=class: xl63]Kevin Gausman[/TD]

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[TD=class: xl63]Caleb Joseph[/TD]

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[TD=class: xl63]Manny Machado[/TD]

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[TD=class: xl63]T.J. McFarland[/TD]

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[TD=class: xl63]Jonathan Schoop[/TD]

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[TD=class: xl63]Chris Tillman[/TD]

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[TD=class: xl63]Vance Worley

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Are they going to extend arbitration to Worley and McFarland?

[wildcard]

With Manny, Jones, Tillman, and Britton on the team? Those are alot of prime players.

I think Britton stays this year but is traded next off season. His raise next year will put him at 14-17m per year. Boras will probably not extend him without going through the FA process and the O's likely lose him if that happens. So next off season is a good time to trade him.

Jones is signed through 2018. He will be 33 August of 2018. The O's will probably still want him but probably not at the annual salary he is getting now. Maybe a three year extension that decreases in value every year. He will move to right field at some point. JMO