Jump to content

Russell's (NOT) Coming.


weams

Recommended Posts

Dan to Roch

Quote

“The club took the stance that if you file, there’s a trial. We took file-to-trial this year,” he said.

“We were able to resolve six of the nine cases and it looks like we’re going to have to go to arbitration with a couple of them, but we were prepared. We’re not afraid of the process. The Orioles have done well in arbitration. That’s not our first choice. We tried to get a deal with all of the players, but we weren’t successful in this case, and to the extent that we’re at this stage of the season, I expect that we’ll go to trial.”

kotm-wire-dell-full.jpg

http://www.masnsports.com/school-of-roch/2017/01/orioles-still-expect-to-take-three-players-to-arbitration-hearings.html

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 88
  • Created
  • Last Reply

You need to read more carefully:

Quote

The Orioles are 10-1 in hearings since Peter Angelos became majority owner and 8-0 when general counsel H. Russell Smouse handles the cases. However, Smouse isn’t involved this year.

I guess a grand total of $1.2 mm in dispute in the three cases wasn't enough for Smouse to bother with.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

18 minutes ago, weams said:

He won't go cheaply. I still think it is Granderson. 

 

Well, you were right about Trumbo.  I've always wished Granderson would someday play for us.  This oughta make Jonesy happy, it does me.  If this materializes, now we'd have to trade Kim or Smith for whatever you can get.  That's alright with me.  So, which one?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 minutes ago, ELMERO said:

 

Well, you were right about Trumbo.  I've always wished Granderson would someday play for us.  This oughta make Jonesy happy, it does me.  If this materializes, now we'd have to trade Kim or Smith for whatever you can get.  That's alright with me.  So, which one?

Joey stays in Norfolk. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, weams said:

I was actually wrong by a couple days on Trumbo. And thought he'd have a vesting option as well. 

Give yourself more credit.  I never doubted ya.  Hey, if Joey goes to Norfolk, who's the platoon partner for Smith or Kim?  Granderson would play every day in RF, wouldn't he?  I suppose you could use Trumbo in LF against LHP.  What would be the point in keeping both Smith and Kim?  So, no Rule 5 guy, but Mancini sticks to DH against the lefties?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

34 minutes ago, ELMERO said:

Give yourself more credit.  I never doubted ya.  Hey, if Joey goes to Norfolk, who's the platoon partner for Smith or Kim?  Granderson would play every day in RF, wouldn't he?  I suppose you could use Trumbo in LF against LHP.  What would be the point in keeping both Smith and Kim?  So, no Rule 5 guy, but Mancini sticks to DH against the lefties?

It's what I would think. Granderson is not great against lefthanders. Either. But in their careers, Machado, Castillo, Hardy, Jones, Trumbo and Schoop are. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, Dark Helmet said:

I don't see anything suggesting Brach will be traded. Did I miss something?

Quote

it looks like we’re going to have to go to arbitration with a couple of them

Couple means two unless Dan was talking about one of them fancy three person couples the french like.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • Posts

    • You don’t downgrade Mayo because of the defense? Or do you think that the plus arm will allow him to play in RF?
    • I'd handicap it differently, even though Austin hit the ball more solidly the last week. After his 10-day stint on IL, I think there is perhaps a 85% chance he goes on rehab with the residual chance due to a gaping hole in the Orioles lineup/bench which has been exposed. Assuming he goes on some form of rehab assignment, there are at least 3 groups I'd offer as qualitatively different outcomes: 1. He goes on rehab for 5 days or less and either a hole/spot develops or he starts hitting right away 2. He goes on rehab for between 6 and 20 days (max rehab time for a position player) and the Orioles use much more, if not all of the shot clock before making a decision.  It could be a matter of Hays not hitting particularly well in the minors or the Orioles playing well with everyone healthy. 3. The club reaches the end of 20 days and uses the remaining option on Hays to leave him there because the O's don't have room given the set of quality OF/DH/1B they have and don't have an easy roster move to make.  The Orioles may be forced to trade him if this occurs, but I would not be shocked if he returns when an injury opens up a spot. Please let me know if you can think of any other possibilities that are not subsets of these 3 outcomes. If I am handicapping the 3 options, I'd say it's: Return to the big leagues immediately after 10 days: 15% Short rehab assignment (option 1): 50% Long rehab assignment (option 2): 25% Optioned after rehab (option 3): 10% Effectively, the Orioles will have already optioned Hays to the minors for a reset with option 2, but under the guise of the injury.   I'd like to hear from as many other posters as would care to handicap these 4 outcomes.  Simply post your percentages for each of the 4.     
    • I don’t know what Friedman or Stearns make. But I’m sure that will be the comp used by his agent. And whatever that number is I’m sure Rubenstein will work off of that to ensure that he stays running the Orioles for a long time.
    • That was fun to watch. Seems like some hitters whiff on fastballs up in the zone because they can't help themselves. Trout watches fastballs up in the zone because he knows he can't hit it. It's the perfect pitch to Trout, but the margin for error is razor-thin.
    • The 2 most overall talented players in the org are Holliday and Gunnar. Adley is the most important. You can argue that Basallo has the highest ceiling. Mayo is right there with them.     This is no shot at Cowser, HK or anyone else.  These guys are just that good.  
    • Kjerstad Norfolk splits (2023-2024) Vs lefties wOBA = .347 xwOBA = .336 K% = 21.5% BB% = 5.6% Whiff = 28.7% Hard hit = 41.0%   Vs righties  wOBA = .426 xwOBA = .377 K% = 20.5% BB% = 9.9% Whiff = 24.3% Hard hit = 47.2%
  • Popular Contributors

  • Popular Now

×
×
  • Create New...