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Manny is an amazing talent but is showing signs that he maybe doesn't handle adversity well.  He almost seems disinterested at times and he certainly is enamored with the home run which is what has caused in my opinion his year long slump. Also he tends to want to make every grounder more spectacular than it needs to be right now. Last night he backhanded a ball and had plenty of time to set his feet and make a normal throw, Manny though did that flip throw from the ground that luckily Mancini was able to scoop. Don't get me wrong, it was a great play but to me a little selfish because he likes being part of the highlight shows right now. He is young so I still expect some of this to resolve itself with maturity.

As for trading Machado, I let every team know he is available and put your best offer together.  We can't win with this pitching staff and I don't see us signing him long term so lets get what we can now.  Hopefully we can get another young, future ace type pitcher to go with Bundy and then build off of that. 

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4 hours ago, InsideCoroner said:

If I were Being Buck Showalter, I would never make any trade that would bolster the Yankees' prospects of winning the World Series.  

Fans can afford to feel that way. Team executives can't. They have to do their best to build up their own club. They don't have time to worry about others.

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If we are trading Machado, we are doing a full rebuild, and we need lots of things. I'm not worried about what positions I am getting back. I just go for the biggest impact talent that I can acquire.

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16 hours ago, ArtVanDelay said:

Why would Houston do that?

i doubt they'd trade Bregman for Manny straight up. 

I disagree. Bregman will be a good player. Maybe an All-Star, but he is not the transformative talent that Manny is at all. Houston is going for it big time and having Manny 2 years could be worth it to them. They also have tons of talent to deal in addition to Bregman...

 

Kyle Tucker

Martes

Devenski

Feliz

 

Tucker is a big prospect that could be the Adam Jones of the deal and Martes is bigtime young power arm. Devenski and Feliz are huge arms that can start and are tucked away in their bullpen right now.

 

I think Houston is a great match.

 

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4 hours ago, DirtyBird said:

 

Time hurts his value. His trade value is higher to a contender at the deadline than it is in the offseason with 1 year left on his deal.

Agreed. Someone who gets him this year has him for two post season pushes, not just the one. 

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Based on contenders needs and Dombrowski's rep for unloading lots of future talent for established stars, the Red Sox seem like the top match, and Rafael Devers is a natural centerpiece if they buy Machado.

Who's a promising starter with some experience?  Why...Eduardo Rodriguez.

High talent baby years away?  Jay Groome

Would you take that 3-for-1?

Bonus question - how would you be rooting if Red Sox Machado is playing vs. Yankees in the playoffs?

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4 minutes ago, OrioleDog said:

Based on contenders needs and Dombrowski's rep for unloading lots of future talent for established stars, the Red Sox seem like the top match, and Rafael Devers is a natural centerpiece if they buy Machado.

Who's a promising starter with some experience?  Why...Eduardo Rodriguez.

High talent baby years away?  Jay Groome

Would you take that 3-for-1?

Bonus question - how would you be rooting if Red Sox Machado is playing vs. Yankees in the playoffs?

 

You're not being reasonable with your package. No one is paying a top 10 prospect in the game who is major league ready right now, a  young starter with #2 upside who is already in the show and sporting a 3.54ERA and then the #12 overall pick from the 2016 draft. Remember, Machado is not even on pace to hit 4.0fWAR right now and is only under control for a year and half. When Miguel Cabrera was traded he was coming off a .320/.401/.565 line, and had 2 full years of control, while Machado's current line is .218/.294/.428 and he has 1.5 years. Machado is still going to fetch very good things, just not what he would have fetched last June.

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