Orioles Pursuing Danny Duffy

[Aglets]

I count 4 years and $60M left on Duffy's deal.  That does seem a little odd for us to take on that much salary.....this would give him the richest pitching deal in O's history right?   Maybe KC will throw in some dough.

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21 minutes ago, Aglets said:

I count 4 years and $60M left on Duffy's deal.  That does seem a little odd for us to take on that much salary.....this would give him the richest pitching deal in O's history right?   Maybe KC will throw in some dough.

If we trade Manny and Britton, that's $30 mil off the books this season. Plus we've already shed a ton of salary from the starters who have left. 

[esmd]

Yeah with what DD just said days ago about not willing to give out 4 year deals in free agency, it would seem contradictory to trade for Duffy given his contract status.  Stranger things have happened though, I guess.  We'll see.

My biggest worry is that all this smoke will turn out to be a mirage, and once again, they get us all wound up and then do..........nothing.

[TommyPickles]

I would love to have Duffy. 

[CP0861]

4 years and $60M left for a SP who's topped 150 IP once?

Add to that his retirement...his recent DUI....his 2 elbow surgeries....and his "bury me a Royal" comment. 

I know that ideally they'll pick up a LH SP somewhere at some point, but shew.....is this the guy? 

[clapdiddy]

He just doesn't seem durable enough.   I think I'd rather look elsewhere.

[Roll Tide]

2 hours ago, rudyrooster said:

Duffy has 4 years/59 million left on his contract.  Really think the O's would take on that contract for a pitcher of his type?  Just askin'.

4/59 is now a bargain .l..9 million for relievers....13-15 million for 3rd tier guys...it's just my re than the 4/52 they gave Ulbaldo 5 years ago

[Nite]

When he's on he's worth the money. Injuries are always a concern but I'd rather pray for no injury than pray that he can throw a strike (Ulbaldo).

[Roll Tide]

8 minutes ago, clapdiddy said:

He just doesn't seem durable enough.   I think I'd rather look elsewhere.

50 starts over the last two years .im in!

[Aristotelian]

2 hours ago, rudyrooster said:

Duffy has 4 years/59 million left on his contract.  Really think the O's would take on that contract for a pitcher of his type?  Just askin'.

That's not that much different than Ubaldo's contract and Duffy is a more consistent pitcher with AL experience.

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7 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:

That's not that much different than Ubaldo's contract and Duffy is a more consistent pitcher with AL experience.

Yeah, kidding me? With all the money coming off the books this year, Duffy is insanely affordable for the O's.

[SteveA]

43 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

4/59 is now a bargain .l..9 million for relievers....13-15 million for 3rd tier guys...it's just my re than the 4/52 they gave Ulbaldo 5 years ago

So we have a club policy not to give 4 or 5 year contracts to free agent pitchers.

But we would TRADE for a guy with 4 years left on a significant contract?

How does that make sense?

(And I'm not opposed to Duffy necessarily, would depend on what we give up for him.   I am just trying to understand the seeming contradiction).

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5 minutes ago, SteveA said:

So we have a club policy not to give 4 or 5 year contracts to free agent pitchers.

But we would TRADE for a guy with 4 years left on a significant contract?

How does that make sense?

(And I'm not opposed to Duffy necessarily, would depend on what we give up for him.   I am just trying to understand the seeming contradiction).

A trade does seem unlikely here. But the difference to me is that he's already signed for an affordable amount. Giving a 4 year deal to a pitcher of Duffy's quality this offseason would be more like $80 million. The AAV for Duffy is not egregious, especially with the money that's off the books, and he's comparable to the mid-tier/top-tier FA starting pitchers that are available this offseason, but for less money. 

[NCRaven]

One way to improve a team is to take on "bad" contract for teams that are rebuilding.  For KC, this is a bad contract and a salary dump.  If we take on all of the cost, the quality of the prospects that we have to include goes down.  Some combination of guys in the category of Stewart, Mullins, Santander, Akin, Sedlock, Baumann, etc.  are more likely for the O's to give up than any of Hays, Mountcastle, Sisco, or Harvey.  IMO.

[NCRaven]

Just now, RZNJ said:

They might be cutting payroll but 4/59 for a 29 year old LHP who put up 3.3 WAR last year in limited innings is not a bad contract.    Tyler Chatwood just got 3/39 without the resume of Duffy.    They are cutting salary but this is not a salary dump.    There will be interested teams to compete for him.

You may be right, but I still don't see the O's including any of the top four guys that I mentioned in a trade for Duffy.  But, I've been surprised once or twice in my life.