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Update: Tim Beckham and Caleb Joseph Non-tendered

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Would you non-tender Tim Beckham?  

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  1. 1. Would you non-tender Tim Beckham?


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Can_of_corn Hangout Grand Counsel

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1 minute ago, NCRaven said:

Galvis and Iglesias are the youngest shortstops, other than Manny, reaching free agency this year.  They are 29 years old and earned $6,825,000 and $6,275,000, respectively.  Hechavarria is next youngest at 30 and he earned $5,900,000.  None of these guys will be cheap.  

It would have to be a small deal for a minor league player or a minor league free agent.

Or maybe a rule V pick!

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2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

It would have to be a small deal for a minor league player or a minor league free agent.

Or maybe a rule V pick!

I agree that the only way you're getting someone else is a minor league free agent or by going with Villar.  Any ML free agents are going to cost as much or more than Beckham who was the lowest paid of that group since he was further behind in the arbitration process.

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I voted yes. I think a defensive SS should be first priority. Beckham has shown he just doesn't have it. He's made a good go at it and he still has some major league years a head of him but he is a 9 hole hitting defensive liability on a good team. 

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4 hours ago, Frobby said:

I solved that problem by not watching a single game after Manny got traded.     And I was hardly watching at all after May anyway.    Just a few innings here and there, not really enough to catch the mental mistakes that were happening.

I don't have that "luxary". I kinda run this little site. ;)

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1 hour ago, Tony-OH said:

I don't have that "luxary". I kinda run this little site. ;)

Occupational hazards.    I guess after hanging out in Afghanistan, being subjected to watching the Orioles attempt to play baseball isn’t exactly daunting.  

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3 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Occupational hazards.    I guess after hanging out in Afghanistan, being subjected to watching the Orioles attempt to play baseball isn’t exactly daunting.  

And Iraq... :D

Hockey hasn't started yet so might as well watch this disaster.

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I’d rather play Chris Davis at SS. We shouldn’t spend one dollar that we don’t have to next year. Anyone who thinks a team will eat half of his salary and give us anything in a trade is fooling themselves. 

if you want Beckham, we could non-tender him and still sign him on the cheap in March. He won’t be in demand. I still wouldn’t do that either.

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15 hours ago, El Gordo said:

I'd give him another season at SS. What do we have to lose? He could prove to be valuable as a trade chip or at the least a decent UTIF for next year.

This seems to be a popular sentiment about Beckham. My thinking is if we took less off a package to dump O’day’s contract in the Gausman trade, why would we then keep Beckham in hopes of bringing a marginal trade return at best?

It’s July 31, 2019. Beckham has a .750 OPS and is playing his usual defense at SS, what is that even worth?  There’s a lot that has to happen to just bring back one top 30 prospect,

- A team has to come out of nowhere to be a contender or Injuries have to happen. This isn’t the NFL, we can look at the teams that are contenders this year, and 90% will be next year. 

-Beckham has to actually put up a .750 OPS. This isn’t a given. 

-Beckham has to actually play average-ish defense. Usually teams that are contenders are trying to sure up positions defensively, especially premium postitions, not gamble on a guy that isn’t “steady”. 

I see Beckham being non-tendered. It sucks that we traded Tobias Myers for him, but it’s time to cut our losses. We are not contending next year. We could use Villar at SS and Wilkerson at 2B. We could always pick up a vet too that can play SS defensively for the league min. We saw what happened with Valencia, teams don’t want average offensive players that can’t play defense. Teams are also really hesitant right now to trade prospects.

Beckham could come back for $1million or so.  We might be the only game in town offering him a chance to be everyday SS.  

I’d go with Villar at SS and Wilkerson at 2B in 2019.  You can mix in some Valera, AAAA types, and vet depth. 

 

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18 minutes ago, Bahama O's Fan said:

If we let him go, what do you think he gets on the open market. I honestly think you could get him back, if you want him, for about 2-3 million. It's worth the risk. If someone else signs him, then so be it.

I think he signs for 3-3.3m range, somewhere, and 50-50 about it being here.

Probably not shared by many here, but Im used to that.

 

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