Ryan Mountcastle 2019

[Ruzious]

18 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Well, I did also mention that among the league’s top 100 hitters, he’s the fifth youngest.    The other four:

Bo Bichette, .806 OPS in the IL and now with Toronto.

Luis Robert, 1.002 OPS for the White Sox affiliate in 34 games following promotions from A+ and AA.

Austin Riley, 1.057 OPS in the IL and now with the Braves.

Willi Castro, .817 OPS with the Tigers’ AAA affiliate.

 

Absolutely, and I think that's a great point - I'm concerned that the O's are being slower than they should be in promoting him.    

[Ruzious]

18 minutes ago, DirtyBird said:

I think Mountcastle should be promoted and Chris Davis should be released.

I second this motion.  All those in favor say aye... yayayayay.  If need be, we''ll start a GoFundMe page for the O's to buy out Davis. Ayayayayay. 

[Big Mac]

I think it's time.  He now has 499 PA at the AAA level where he has been remarkably consistent and has over 2,000 total minor league PAs.  I am as concerned about the walk rates as anybody but it seems clear at this point he isn't going to progress in that aspect while facing AAA pitching.  I also do not think that Mountcastle will turn into the caliber of player where we should be that worried about service time. 

[Frobby]

5 hours ago, Big Mac said:

I think it's time.  He now has 499 PA at the AAA level where he has been remarkably consistent and has over 2,000 total minor league PAs.  I am as concerned about the walk rates as anybody but it seems clear at this point he isn't going to progress in that aspect while facing AAA pitching.  I also do not think that Mountcastle will turn into the caliber of player where we should be that worried about service time. 

Nothing’s going to happen before Sept. 1.   

[orioles22]

I'd like to see him move up after the AAA season ends. It's been fun following him there this season. He's up to 5th in the league in average and fourth in RBIs.

[Big Mac]

16 hours ago, Frobby said:

Nothing’s going to happen before Sept. 1.   

I agree, what I meant when I said "I think it's time" is that it should be this September and not next June.  Giving him 650-700 AAA PA before a call-up seems like overkill to me. 

[Frobby]

1 hour ago, Big Mac said:

I agree, what I meant when I said "I think it's time" is that it should be this September and not next June.  Giving him 650-700 AAA PA before a call-up seems like overkill to me. 

Remember, it only takes about two weeks to extend his service time by a year.    I keep reading people say “keep him down until May to preserve his service time,” but he doesn’t need to be held back that long (if the O’s are playing that game).    So it’s not 650-700 PA, it’s  whatever he accrues this season plus another 60ish next year.    

PS - I’m talking about service time needed to reach free agency.    It does take until late May/early June to delay arbitration eligibility down the road, but I have never thought that game was worth playing. 

 

[DirtyBird]

4 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Remember, it only takes about two weeks to extend his service time by a year.    I keep reading people say “keep him down until May to preserve his service time,” but he doesn’t need to be held back that long (if the O’s are playing that game).    So it’s not 650-700 PA, it’s  whatever he accrues this season plus another 60ish next year.    

PS - I’m talking about service time needed to reach free agency.    It does take until late May/early June to delay arbitration eligibility down the road, but I have never thought that game was worth playing. 

 

If I were one of these players, I would never sign an extension with an organization that played service time games with my career.

[Big Mac]

7 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Remember, it only takes about two weeks to extend his service time by a year.    I keep reading people say “keep him down until May to preserve his service time,” but he doesn’t need to be held back that long (if the O’s are playing that game).    So it’s not 650-700 PA, it’s  whatever he accrues this season plus another 60ish next year.    

PS - I’m talking about service time needed to reach free agency.    It does take until late May/early June to delay arbitration eligibility down the road, but I have never thought that game was worth playing. 

 

Right, I was referring to the amount of time to keep him down to delay arbitration eligibility.  I agree it's not a game worth playing. 

[brvn52]

Mountcastle walk!

[Frobby]

21 minutes ago, brvn52 said:

Mountcastle walk!

I know we make fun of him on this point, but the fact is he’s walked 7 times in August, which is more than he walked in June/July combined.   

[Can_of_corn]

4 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I know we make fun of him on this point, but the fact is he’s walked 7 times in August, which is more than he walked in June/July combined.   

Probably being pitched around.

[LookinUp]

12 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Probably being pitched around.

That's fine. Taking walks it taking walks. Even if you're pitched around it shows you're being a little more selective.

[DirtyBird]

37 minutes ago, sdmarkakis said:

Yeah you would. If you were one of those players, you'd understand how the business works instead of making armchair calls from your house. 

It’s a business for the player too. And the organization is taking a year off of their income earning career.

[brvn52]

3 hours ago, Frobby said:

I know we make fun of him on this point, but the fact is he’s walked 7 times in August, which is more than he walked in June/July combined.   

I’m not nearly as concerned about the walks as most. He’s young and has time to develop. He’s got so much talent. He’ll need to grow in taking walks to maximize his potential, but I’m okay with that coming a little later in his development process.