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Bundy, Means, Mancini, Givens, and Severino for present and future value. Considered Smith, but I think he’s like a .750 OPS bat with subpar corner defense. Prefer Severino’s upside and floor. 

Cashner is a two month rental at this point and Villar has been mediocre three out of the last four years.  

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On the roster

Bundy, Mancini, Means, Givens, Nunez( if he can play a serviceable 3rd at some point and hit 30+ homers cheap he would be a huge piece in a trade in the future.  I would be giving him as many starts as possible there trying to get him improved to atleast serviceable there.

In organization

Rodriguez, Hall, Hays, Diaz, Hall

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21 minutes ago, LookinUp said:

I like that you included the second Hall. He would clearly be very important if he can become our SS of the future. He's a very long ways away though.

I’m a big fan of Adam Hall, but he still has a lot to prove.    I’d still say his chances of being a big league starting SS are under 50%, because his lack of power will limit his ability to get on base via walks as he moves up the ladder.    Of course, he may develop a little power as he matures.   

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On 5/28/2019 at 9:38 AM, Moose Milligan said:

I think they pick AR.  If Elias thinks Witt is the guy...well, who am I to argue?  A lot of people like Witt so it wouldn't be completely out of the blue.

I hope they pick AR, too. But, the extent of my research has been watching a couple low-res Twitter videos on my phone while I'm on the toilet - so I'm gonna take a wild guess that Elias knows a hell lot more about these players than I do.

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39 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I’m a big fan of Adam Hall, but he still has a lot to prove.    I’d still say his chances of being a big league starting SS are under 50%, because his lack of power will limit his ability to get on base via walks as he moves up the ladder.    Of course, he may develop a little power as he matures.   

I sometimes question how the word power is thrown around. To me, it includes any extra base hits. Doubles power is threatening enough in the majors, for example, to make pitchers respect you. I'm sure the more informed voices can put a much better description on what we're looking for in terms of power from Hall (e.g., OPS, ISO, whatever) 

I agree wholeheartedly about your assessment. Even without the power issue, he'll see much better location and off speed stuff as he moves up in levels. He still has a lot to prove to be sure. It is nice to see that he seems to have some good bat to ball skills though. Hopefully that continues as he moves up.

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19 minutes ago, LookinUp said:

I sometimes question how the word power is thrown around. To me, it includes any extra base hits. Doubles power is threatening enough in the majors, for example, to make pitchers respect you. I'm sure the more informed voices can put a much better description on what we're looking for in terms of power from Hall (e.g., OPS, ISO, whatever) 

Yeah, I certainly don’t think Hall needs to hit a lot of homers.   But a .103 ISO in low A ball is quite low, well below the Sally League average of .130.    So, I’d like to see more XBH of any kind, especially considering that Hall has the kind of speed that can turn singles into doubles and doubles into triples on occasion.    

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5 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Yeah, I certainly don’t think Hall needs to hit a lot of homers.   But a .103 ISO in low A ball is quite low, well below the Sally League average of .130.    So, I’d like to see more XBH of any kind, especially considering that Hall has the kind of speed that can turn singles into doubles and doubles into triples on occasion.    

Right. I agree with you. I just didn't articulate my question well. 

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7 minutes ago, LookinUp said:

Right. I agree with you. I just didn't articulate my question well. 

We are on the same page.   And I want to emphasize that I’m not knocking Hall.    He brings a lot to the table on both sides of the ball.  

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1 hour ago, theocean said:

I hope they pick AR, too. But, the extent of my research has been watching a couple low-res Twitter videos on my phone while I'm on the toilet - so I'm gonna take a wild guess that Elias knows a hell lot more about these players than I do.

This may be the most honest post I have ever seen on the Hangout.  And I love it.  Nice job.  

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