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37 minutes ago, interloper said:

A quote usually contains, you know, quotation marks.

I thought a quote was when, you know, a person puts up both hands w fingers curled and extends the index and middle fingers like rabbit ears and then flicks them twice.

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3 minutes ago, hoosiers said:

I thought a quote was when, you know, a person puts up both hands w fingers curled and extends the index and middle fingers like rabbit ears and then flicks them twice.

That’s called quotey quotes.

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Givens is not having a particularly good year by his standards, with an ERA more than a run higher than his career mark (3.27). He’s also nearing his season-high for homers allowed (10 in 2017), is currently sitting at a career-high for average exit velocity allowed and percentage of hard-hit balls and is just eight for 13 in converting save opportunities. But his strikeout-per-nine innings (12.50) is a career high and he’s been throwing well lately; Givens has given up a run just once in his past seven outings, spanning 8 1/3 innings.

Why contenders would want him: I spoke to one scout recently who said Givens “is on everybody’s list. Anyone could use him.” The reasons are multiple. Every contender is looking for bullpen help. Givens is versatile enough to fill any relief role, including fill-in closer in a pinch. He’s been in pressure situations for several years (including a 2016 postseason appearance) and is still relatively young. He’s also not a rental; any team trading for him would have the ability to keep Givens for two more seasons after this one. And, even though he is arbitration-eligible again this winter, the fact he only has eight saves shouldn’t bump his salary from $2.15 million to an unreasonable amount, like arbitration tends to do for full-time closers. Also, one talent evaluator told me he’d love to see what Givens can do outside of Camden Yards (his home ERA this year is 5.32 in 18 games versus a road ERA of 2.93 in 14 games).

Why contenders wouldn’t want him: Consistency. No team wants to trade for a reliever who will make 15 to 20 appearances for the rest of the year and not have a sense at what it is getting. When Givens has struggled this year, it hasn’t been pretty. And he’s been victimized by the longball, which also is a red flag for late-inning relievers who are usually pitching with small margins of error. There is also the matter of what a team will have to give up to acquire Givens. Most trade-block relievers are two-month rentals. Givens’ contract status makes him more attractive, but it also heightens his return cost since the Orioles don’t have to part with him now. If teams aren’t full believers in Givens, they can find cheaper alternatives. And this is a market that has plenty of late-inning types on bad teams that are available.

Connolly’s take: I think Givens gets dealt, because this club is years away from needing a closer and there are just too many teams watching Givens closely for one of them not to offer a promising minor leaguer or two to get him.

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, hoosiers said:

I thought a quote was when, you know, a person puts up both hands w fingers curled and extends the index and middle fingers like rabbit ears and then flicks them twice.

I guess I was way off. I thought quotes were those round, rubbery things that are lighter than horseshoes and therefore easier to throw

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7 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

Paraphrasing is the same as quoting. You just use your own words to say the same things.

Youd know that if you went to college??

It’s definitely not remotely the same thing in journalism, quoting someone is an important distinction where you must use the subjects words as they were spoken/written.

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1 minute ago, Luke-OH said:

It’s definitely not remotely the same thing in journalism, quoting someone is an important distinction where you must use the subjects words as they were spoken/written.

Not arguing as I don’t pretend to be a significant person in the media.

The writer expressed his information as he believes they are facts.

i have no idea if he’s spoken to Elias or anyone else tied to the Orioles.

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12 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

Not arguing as I don’t pretend to be a significant person in the media.

The writer expressed his information as he believes they are facts.

i have no idea if he’s spoken to Elias or anyone else tied to the Orioles.

He hasn’t.

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12 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

Not arguing as I don’t pretend to be a significant person in the media.

The writer expressed his information as he believes they are facts.

i have no idea if he’s spoken to Elias or anyone else tied to the Orioles.

Just FYI Fansided is known for pumping out these type of poor articles, written in a way to pop up in google searches. I’d steer clear of them.

 

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4 minutes ago, Luke-OH said:

He hasn’t.

Noted

 

2 minutes ago, El_Duderino said:

Just FYI Fansided is known for pumping out these type of poor articles, written in a way to pop up in google searches. I’d steer clear of them.

 

Noted ... Thanks 

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