9/4 Player Pool - Lowther added

[waroriole]

Off topic, but do we think overflow camp is going to replace every minor league team except AA and AAA after this year? Maybe have just one A league?

[SteveA]

20 minutes ago, waroriole said:

Off topic, but do we think overflow camp is going to replace every minor league team except AA and AAA after this year? Maybe have just one A league?

Doesn't look like there will be any minor league.   Overflow camp is it.

[MurphDogg]

42 minutes ago, waroriole said:

Off topic, but do we think overflow camp is going to replace every minor league team except AA and AAA after this year? Maybe have just one A league?

The plan is for 120 teams plus GCL and Arizona League. So still two A leagues.

[SteveA]

9 minutes ago, MurphDogg said:

The plan is for 120 teams plus GCL and Arizona League. So still two A leagues.

OK, sorry, I missed where he said "after" this year.   

[waroriole]

52 minutes ago, MurphDogg said:

The plan is for 120 teams plus GCL and Arizona League. So still two A leagues.

Oh that’s more than I expected. 

[MurphDogg]

1 hour ago, waroriole said:

Oh that’s more than I expected. 

Yeah, just eliminating short season A ball and high level Rookie ball. 

[MurphDogg]

 

[BohKnowsBmore]

On 7/14/2020 at 9:55 PM, MurphDogg said:

Yeah, just eliminating short season A ball and high level Rookie ball. 

Wait, so what happens to the Iron BirdS?

[makoman]

4 minutes ago, BohKnowsBmore said:

Wait, so what happens to the Iron BirdS?

They weren't on the list for removal (Frederick was though) so presumably they'd just move to a different level. AFAIK the list hasn't been finalized though.

[MurphDogg]

With Urias joining, only Ryan McKenna is on the 40-man roster and not the player pool. 

Kremer was added on the 15th, that was not mentioned yet in this thread.

Glad to see Diaz and Hall working out with team staff.

Now at 56 players, and I would expect Taylor Davis to be cut once Holladay and/or Wynns is demoted to the Bowie camp, as it seems unlikely that the Bowie camp requires 3 and certainly not 4 roster catchers. 

I think Diaz and Kremer were the last two players (plus maybe Urias) with any possible chance of getting into a game for the Orioles in 2020 yet to join, and it would likely take multiple injuries and/or illnesses for that to happen.

The last several spots could go to guys like Kjerstad, Grayson Rodriguez, Adam Hall, and Jordan Westburg who, like DL Hall and Rutschman, have no chance of actually playing for the 2020 Orioles.

[DrungoHazewood]

On 7/14/2020 at 6:57 PM, waroriole said:

Off topic, but do we think overflow camp is going to replace every minor league team except AA and AAA after this year? Maybe have just one A league?

I think MLB sees the 90% of the minor leaguers they pay as money sinks, and if they could figure out a way to have one or two affiliated teams without taking a massive PR hit they'd do it.  They're very jealous of the NFL and NBA who fell into using college as free minor leagues and huge development risk reduction.

So... not next year.  But maybe in five or 10.

[Legend_Of_Joey]

11 minutes ago, MurphDogg said:

With Urias joining, only Ryan McKenna is on the 40-man roster and not the player pool. 

Kremer was added on the 15th, that was not mentioned yet in this thread.

Glad to see Diaz and Hall working out with team staff.

Now at 56 players, and I would expect Taylor Davis to be cut once Holladay and/or Wynns is demoted to the Bowie camp, as it seems unlikely that the Bowie camp requires 3 and certainly not 4 roster catchers. 

No glaring omissions though, I think Diaz and Kremer were the last two players (plus maybe Urias) with any possible chance of getting into a game for the Orioles in 2020 yet to join, and it would likely take multiple injuries and/or illnesses for that to happen.

I’m curious as to McKenna being omitted. Seems strange, especially since they were needing depth earlier with Santander and Smith out.

I don’t think Holoday and/or Wynns is going to Bowie. Hyde has mentioned keeping 3 catchers on the 30 man roster and then 1 of the Taxi Squad players who travel HAVE to be a catcher.

If they need room on the 40, I think Urias is the first cut.  

[VaBird1]

On 7/14/2020 at 3:43 PM, MurphDogg said:

God forbid we don't have ghost outfielders in our intrasquad games.

Or infielders in the outfield 

[MurphDogg]

9 minutes ago, Legend_Of_Joey said:

I don’t think Holoday and/or Wynns is going to Bowie. Hyde has mentioned keeping 3 catchers on the 30 man roster and then 1 of the Taxi Squad players who travel HAVE to be a catcher.

You really think they will have 3 catchers plus a taxi squad catcher? Maybe with the 30-man roster, but it seems pointless once it drops to 28 and actively harmful to carry a third catcher over an extra reliever with a 26-man roster, considering how few off-days there are this season and how taxed I expect the bullpen to be with the Orioles rotation.

[Legend_Of_Joey]

Just now, MurphDogg said:

You really think they will have 3 catchers plus a taxi squad catcher? Maybe with a 30-man roster, but it seems pointless once it drops to 28 and actively harmful to carry a third catcher over an extra reliever with a 26-man roster, considering how few off-days there are this season.

With the 30 man, yes I think they will. 
 

Once it drops to 28 and then 26, I don’t think they will, barring injury/illness. But even if one goes to Bowie, that’s 3 catchers in Bowie. Not really enough to get Davis fired, as they might want him there also incase of injury/illness. Look at what happened in Kansas City, with Perez and his backup getting the virus.